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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7653640" data-attributes="member: 177">I have to agree a great deal.  The suffix "-punk" got its start with punk rock.  As such, it is largely about dystopia.  This was carried into the first literary genre I know of to bear the name - cyberpunk.  If you look back at your William Gibson, the fact that the world is a trash heap is pretty apparent.  Bleak, fairly film noir worldviews are pretty critical to being "punk".Meanwhile, most things that can use "daring do" in part of their description are missing that fairly crucial point.  A great deal of so called "steampunk" is actually better described as "gaslight romance/adventure".</blockquote>