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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8997139" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>He'd already been told, extremely specifically, that he could just hang out there now, with Carga literally saying "between adventures" like this was a videogame or meta-comment in a TTRPG, so I still put it down to Favreau's bizarre obsession with IG11 - a totally<em> non</em>-fan-favourite character but one who got a lot of talk this season.</p><p></p><p>Talking of non-fan-favourites did anyone else catch that we saw the Space Vespas again on the robot uprising planet a couple of episodes back?</p><p></p><p>I think the issue here is that certain fans (including JJ Abrams lol) care more about the lightsabers in question than the actual characters do.</p><p></p><p>The Darksaber so far has never been shown to be more than a slightly inadequate and hard-to-use lightsaber, that has some cultural significance to the Mandalorians (but only so much - it's 1000 years old in a culture that's 10000 years old).</p><p></p><p>But that was, and I cannot stress this enough, purely and entirely because of <strong>nostalgia</strong>, not good writing and I <em>guarantee</em> it didn't do that to anyone under 25, maybe under 30.</p><p></p><p>It was a 100% deus-ex-machina moment, just hardcore leveraging a character who had never previously been in the show or even really hinted at, for the nostalgia equivalent of a shotgun to the face. If it wasn't Luke, the reaction wouldn't have been tears of joy but rather would have been "What a cheap deus-ex-machina ending that was!".</p><p></p><p>So what, you wanted them to have Han Solo or Leia or someone equally nostalgia-y turn up in a similarly pure-nostalgia moment? Maybe instead of the cruiser crashing, the Millennium Falcon could have inexplicably hurtled into the base and Chewbacca could have leapt off a ramp whilst it hovered and started whaling on Moff Gideon?</p><p></p><p>I mean, that's what you're praising. Brutal, unsubtle use of nostalgia.</p><p></p><p>Problem is, in S2, which you're praising, they already established, at some length, that the Darksaber isn't good at cutting through Beskar. So it would be a pretty bad weapon against a man in Besker power armour (and his armour was powered, you could hear the whine of the motors when he overpowered Din repeatedly). Certainly no Mjolnir.</p><p></p><p>Also, the Darksaber itself isn't Mjolnir. Even if it's semi-sentient and judging its wielder (which I do not think is the case), it's evil or at least rather thuggish, rather than virtuous. Consider that previous people able to wield it well include Pre Vizsla and Darth Maul - absolute scumbag trash, morally speaking. Do you really want Din to be in their company? If the Darksaber is sentient, all it respects is strength and maybe "being a terrorist" (because Bo-Katan is an ex-terrorist). Sabine Wren, a genuinely good person, had huge difficulty learning to wield it, I note - and it took Jedi training for her to do so.</p><p></p><p>Despite everything else, I would agree on this. It felt like they'd planned the finale and realized they could get to it in like 4 episodes at most, so chucked a bunch of other stuff around to make time. And in the finale itself they made a lot of narrative leaps which could have exploited the stuff they set up, but didn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8997139, member: 18"] He'd already been told, extremely specifically, that he could just hang out there now, with Carga literally saying "between adventures" like this was a videogame or meta-comment in a TTRPG, so I still put it down to Favreau's bizarre obsession with IG11 - a totally[I] non[/I]-fan-favourite character but one who got a lot of talk this season. Talking of non-fan-favourites did anyone else catch that we saw the Space Vespas again on the robot uprising planet a couple of episodes back? I think the issue here is that certain fans (including JJ Abrams lol) care more about the lightsabers in question than the actual characters do. The Darksaber so far has never been shown to be more than a slightly inadequate and hard-to-use lightsaber, that has some cultural significance to the Mandalorians (but only so much - it's 1000 years old in a culture that's 10000 years old). But that was, and I cannot stress this enough, purely and entirely because of [B]nostalgia[/B], not good writing and I [I]guarantee[/I] it didn't do that to anyone under 25, maybe under 30. It was a 100% deus-ex-machina moment, just hardcore leveraging a character who had never previously been in the show or even really hinted at, for the nostalgia equivalent of a shotgun to the face. If it wasn't Luke, the reaction wouldn't have been tears of joy but rather would have been "What a cheap deus-ex-machina ending that was!". So what, you wanted them to have Han Solo or Leia or someone equally nostalgia-y turn up in a similarly pure-nostalgia moment? Maybe instead of the cruiser crashing, the Millennium Falcon could have inexplicably hurtled into the base and Chewbacca could have leapt off a ramp whilst it hovered and started whaling on Moff Gideon? I mean, that's what you're praising. Brutal, unsubtle use of nostalgia. Problem is, in S2, which you're praising, they already established, at some length, that the Darksaber isn't good at cutting through Beskar. So it would be a pretty bad weapon against a man in Besker power armour (and his armour was powered, you could hear the whine of the motors when he overpowered Din repeatedly). Certainly no Mjolnir. Also, the Darksaber itself isn't Mjolnir. Even if it's semi-sentient and judging its wielder (which I do not think is the case), it's evil or at least rather thuggish, rather than virtuous. Consider that previous people able to wield it well include Pre Vizsla and Darth Maul - absolute scumbag trash, morally speaking. Do you really want Din to be in their company? If the Darksaber is sentient, all it respects is strength and maybe "being a terrorist" (because Bo-Katan is an ex-terrorist). Sabine Wren, a genuinely good person, had huge difficulty learning to wield it, I note - and it took Jedi training for her to do so. Despite everything else, I would agree on this. It felt like they'd planned the finale and realized they could get to it in like 4 episodes at most, so chucked a bunch of other stuff around to make time. And in the finale itself they made a lot of narrative leaps which could have exploited the stuff they set up, but didn't. [/QUOTE]
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