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<blockquote data-quote="msd" data-source="post: 1923923" data-attributes="member: 19974"><p>Fair enough, but that's kind of a meaningless number and a bit redundant to boot <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> - you are effectively saying that "95% of the people who weren't bothered by the EULA to an extent that would prevent them from buying the product aren't bothered by the EULA..." Yeah...I would hope so.</p><p></p><p>The real number that is interesting is the size of the market that would buy their products...but for (even some changes) in the EULA. How big is the market that they are passing up because of this?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair enough, but again, in the world of mapping programs, this is way non-standard. CC2, Fractal Mapper, etc. all cost roughly the same and have no restrictions. Now, they may believe that because of their singular art that they are not in the same market as those applications and therefore don't need to stick to those norms, but anecdoctal evidence reading these boards suggests the opposite...people see Dundjinni as a mapping program to be considered as one amongst various alternatives.</p><p></p><p>Hey, you know what? This isn't even the most annoying thing about the EULA. The most annoying thing:</p><p></p><p><em><strong>8. Required Credit</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>8.1 You must place the approved Dundjinni logo (in the format and size specified</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>on the Dundjinni website at the time of publication) in the right hand corner of</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>any map or adventure made with the Software Product (including digital as well as</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>printed output) that is: (i) used at a tournament or other public contest, (ii) submitted</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>to a magazine, website, or other media outlet for publication, (iii) posted to a</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>website (other than the Dundjinni website), or (iv) distributed in more than 10 copies</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>total.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong></strong></em></p><p><em><strong>8.2 Any map or adventure made with the Software Product that is posted to any website</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>must also include the following link in at least 7 pt font immediately below or adjacent</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>to the map: “_______(Map, Adventure, or Map and Adventure, as appropriate)________</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>made with Dundjinni software - <a href="http://www.dundjinni.com”" target="_blank">www.dundjinni.com”</a></strong></em></p><p></p><p>C'mon...</p><p></p><p>I bought your software which included your art...and now I have to do your advertising for you? If the art is that much of an important resource to them, then they should price that into the equation...</p><p></p><p>But to force someone, legally, to provide a "made with..." link back to their site or risk violating the terms of the license is way off the beaten path of EULAs.</p><p></p><p>IMHO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="msd, post: 1923923, member: 19974"] Fair enough, but that's kind of a meaningless number and a bit redundant to boot :D - you are effectively saying that "95% of the people who weren't bothered by the EULA to an extent that would prevent them from buying the product aren't bothered by the EULA..." Yeah...I would hope so. The real number that is interesting is the size of the market that would buy their products...but for (even some changes) in the EULA. How big is the market that they are passing up because of this? Fair enough, but again, in the world of mapping programs, this is way non-standard. CC2, Fractal Mapper, etc. all cost roughly the same and have no restrictions. Now, they may believe that because of their singular art that they are not in the same market as those applications and therefore don't need to stick to those norms, but anecdoctal evidence reading these boards suggests the opposite...people see Dundjinni as a mapping program to be considered as one amongst various alternatives. Hey, you know what? This isn't even the most annoying thing about the EULA. The most annoying thing: [I][B]8. Required Credit 8.1 You must place the approved Dundjinni logo (in the format and size specified on the Dundjinni website at the time of publication) in the right hand corner of any map or adventure made with the Software Product (including digital as well as printed output) that is: (i) used at a tournament or other public contest, (ii) submitted to a magazine, website, or other media outlet for publication, (iii) posted to a website (other than the Dundjinni website), or (iv) distributed in more than 10 copies total. 8.2 Any map or adventure made with the Software Product that is posted to any website must also include the following link in at least 7 pt font immediately below or adjacent to the map: “_______(Map, Adventure, or Map and Adventure, as appropriate)________ made with Dundjinni software - [url]www.dundjinni.com”[/url][/B][/I] C'mon... I bought your software which included your art...and now I have to do your advertising for you? If the art is that much of an important resource to them, then they should price that into the equation... But to force someone, legally, to provide a "made with..." link back to their site or risk violating the terms of the license is way off the beaten path of EULAs. IMHO. [/QUOTE]
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