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<blockquote data-quote="Pants" data-source="post: 2076837" data-attributes="member: 8849"><p>I have my 2e Monstrous Manual in front of me at the moment:</p><p></p><p>The beholder entry lists the following:</p><p>Beholder (duh, already in MM)</p><p>Death Kiss (Monsters of Faerun)</p><p>Eye of the Deep (Lords of Madness, also in Tome of Horrors)</p><p>Gauth (Very different version in the MM3.5)</p><p>Spectator (Magic of Faerun and Lords of Madness)</p><p>Undead - Death Tyrant (FRCS)</p><p></p><p>Abominations:</p><p>Hive Mother (Lords of Madness)</p><p>Director (Lords of Madness)</p><p>Examiner (??? Looks not to be converted yet)</p><p>Lensman (??? Not converted yet)</p><p>Overseer (Lords of Madness)</p><p>Watcher (??? Not converted yet)</p><p></p><p>The book also lists these with just sidenotes:</p><p>Beholder Mage (PrC in Monsters of Faerun)</p><p>Elder Orb (Lords of Madness)</p><p>Orbus (???)</p><p>Doomsphere (Monsters of Faerun maybe)</p><p>Kasharin (???)</p><p>Astereater (???)</p><p>Gorbel (???)</p><p></p><p>So, no Observer in the book. Methinks you're thinking of the Overseer or the Spectator maybe?</p><p></p><p>So, looks like 3 Abominations aren't being converted. It would've been nice if the book took all the beholders from other books and updated them, but it it was a decision made so that the book would have more new material rather than merely reprinted material, I guess that could be okay.</p><p></p><p>I'm wondering if the Gas Spore will make a reappearance in the Beholder chapter? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>All in all, Lords of Madness looks excellent. I eagerly await it with my grubby, gamer hands. Sandstorm... looks okay, though I remember that the previews for Frostburn did very little to excite me. </p><p>I think it's great that the Unholy Toughness ability has made it's way into other books now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pants, post: 2076837, member: 8849"] I have my 2e Monstrous Manual in front of me at the moment: The beholder entry lists the following: Beholder (duh, already in MM) Death Kiss (Monsters of Faerun) Eye of the Deep (Lords of Madness, also in Tome of Horrors) Gauth (Very different version in the MM3.5) Spectator (Magic of Faerun and Lords of Madness) Undead - Death Tyrant (FRCS) Abominations: Hive Mother (Lords of Madness) Director (Lords of Madness) Examiner (??? Looks not to be converted yet) Lensman (??? Not converted yet) Overseer (Lords of Madness) Watcher (??? Not converted yet) The book also lists these with just sidenotes: Beholder Mage (PrC in Monsters of Faerun) Elder Orb (Lords of Madness) Orbus (???) Doomsphere (Monsters of Faerun maybe) Kasharin (???) Astereater (???) Gorbel (???) So, no Observer in the book. Methinks you're thinking of the Overseer or the Spectator maybe? So, looks like 3 Abominations aren't being converted. It would've been nice if the book took all the beholders from other books and updated them, but it it was a decision made so that the book would have more new material rather than merely reprinted material, I guess that could be okay. I'm wondering if the Gas Spore will make a reappearance in the Beholder chapter? :) All in all, Lords of Madness looks excellent. I eagerly await it with my grubby, gamer hands. Sandstorm... looks okay, though I remember that the previews for Frostburn did very little to excite me. I think it's great that the Unholy Toughness ability has made it's way into other books now. [/QUOTE]
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