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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4457866" data-attributes="member: 40961">Is it your contention that the section on conditions in the PHB covers all &quot;conditions&quot; in D&amp;D?&nbsp; So, if a paragon path ability weakened a foe, it would be covered, but if it allowed you to inflict a -1 on all enemy attack rolls for one round after you used an action point, it would not, because -1 on attack rolls is not a &quot;condition?&quot;I don't think the rules should be read with that critical an eye.&nbsp; I think it is entirely possible, indeed logical given what appears to be the intent of the rules, that &quot;condition&quot; as it is used on page 57 is not the same as &quot;condition&quot; as it is used much later in the book.&nbsp; It would appear, at least to me, that the designers wanted DMs to not have to second guess what a monster does and does not know about itself and what its suffering under.&nbsp; As such a -1 to attack rolls from a power and a -1 to attack rolls from a paragon path ability should be treated the same.&nbsp; The monster knows about both.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4457866, member: 40961"] Is it your contention that the section on conditions in the PHB covers all "conditions" in D&D? So, if a paragon path ability weakened a foe, it would be covered, but if it allowed you to inflict a -1 on all enemy attack rolls for one round after you used an action point, it would not, because -1 on attack rolls is not a "condition?" I don't think the rules should be read with that critical an eye. I think it is entirely possible, indeed logical given what appears to be the intent of the rules, that "condition" as it is used on page 57 is not the same as "condition" as it is used much later in the book. It would appear, at least to me, that the designers wanted DMs to not have to second guess what a monster does and does not know about itself and what its suffering under. As such a -1 to attack rolls from a power and a -1 to attack rolls from a paragon path ability should be treated the same. The monster knows about both. [/QUOTE]

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