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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4458577" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>No, it doesn't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let's say the Fighter hits someone with Reaping Strike and marks them. The power they have hit the the target with is Reaping Strike. The effects of that power are a/ deal damage, and b/ mark the target - the Fighter's Reaping Strike has been altered by his class feature.</p><p></p><p>The Reaping Strike has not placed any restrictions on the target, other than the -2 to attack rolls for the Marked condition. The target is still able to shift, and is still able to attack non-Fighter targets.</p><p></p><p>The Fighter has a class feature which allows him to take a certain action if the target shifts or attacks a non-Fighter target. But this isn't something that is imposed on the target; this is an ability possessed by the Fighter. The condition imposed on the target is "Marked". "Able to whack a marked target who does X" is not a condition imposed on the target.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. And that's the case with Combat Challenge. The power currently active on the target is a modified Reaping Strike which imposed the marked condition. The power that <em>could</em> be used on the target is a Melee Basic Attack, granted by the Fighter's Combat Challenge class feature. Why should the target know that the melee basic attack is an option available to his attacker, when the only thing that has been <em>done</em> to him is to mark him?</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4458577, member: 1656"] No, it doesn't. Let's say the Fighter hits someone with Reaping Strike and marks them. The power they have hit the the target with is Reaping Strike. The effects of that power are a/ deal damage, and b/ mark the target - the Fighter's Reaping Strike has been altered by his class feature. The Reaping Strike has not placed any restrictions on the target, other than the -2 to attack rolls for the Marked condition. The target is still able to shift, and is still able to attack non-Fighter targets. The Fighter has a class feature which allows him to take a certain action if the target shifts or attacks a non-Fighter target. But this isn't something that is imposed on the target; this is an ability possessed by the Fighter. The condition imposed on the target is "Marked". "Able to whack a marked target who does X" is not a condition imposed on the target. Right. And that's the case with Combat Challenge. The power currently active on the target is a modified Reaping Strike which imposed the marked condition. The power that [i]could[/i] be used on the target is a Melee Basic Attack, granted by the Fighter's Combat Challenge class feature. Why should the target know that the melee basic attack is an option available to his attacker, when the only thing that has been [i]done[/i] to him is to mark him? -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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