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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4458790" data-attributes="member: 40961">Because marking isn't a &quot;thing&quot; in game.&nbsp; No one says, in character, &quot;Oh my gosh!&nbsp; I've been marked!&quot;&nbsp; They think that the Fighter's really got their number, and if they blink wrong, he'll clobber them.&nbsp; Or that the Paladin has set his God's eye upon them, and they'd better react.&nbsp; Or that the Swordmage has cast a spell upon them.&nbsp;I don't think you can divide up marking, and the effects of marking in a particular instance, and treat them like separate things.&nbsp; That presumes that &quot;marking&quot; has a consistent in game nature, and it doesn't.&nbsp;Next to the orcs is a many tentacled beast who's tentacles reach and writhe thirty feet out from his body.&nbsp; Is there any way, under the rules as written, to know that this monster has threatening reach?&nbsp;If the answer is no, what does that tell us about this debate?&nbsp;If I inflict 11 points of ongoing radiant damage on your character by using a paragon path ability that isn't a power, does your character know about it during my turn?&nbsp; Does he not figure it out until his turn starts and he takes damage?&nbsp;Does any page exist in the entirety of the game that explicitly states that a character has any idea of how wounded he is, other than &quot;bloodied&quot; and &quot;dead?&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4458790, member: 40961"] Because marking isn't a "thing" in game. No one says, in character, "Oh my gosh! I've been marked!" They think that the Fighter's really got their number, and if they blink wrong, he'll clobber them. Or that the Paladin has set his God's eye upon them, and they'd better react. Or that the Swordmage has cast a spell upon them. I don't think you can divide up marking, and the effects of marking in a particular instance, and treat them like separate things. That presumes that "marking" has a consistent in game nature, and it doesn't. Next to the orcs is a many tentacled beast who's tentacles reach and writhe thirty feet out from his body. Is there any way, under the rules as written, to know that this monster has threatening reach? If the answer is no, what does that tell us about this debate? If I inflict 11 points of ongoing radiant damage on your character by using a paragon path ability that isn't a power, does your character know about it during my turn? Does he not figure it out until his turn starts and he takes damage? Does any page exist in the entirety of the game that explicitly states that a character has any idea of how wounded he is, other than "bloodied" and "dead?" [/QUOTE]

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