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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darrin Drader" data-source="post: 4292490" data-attributes="member: 7394">I'll be honest, the 4E marketing did nothing for me. I wasn't exactly opposed to the launch of 4th edition, but I wasn't ready to ditch 3rd edition either. The only thing I was willing to do was clean up a few rules that bothered me and move on with the game. In the end, I decided to quit fighting it and simply ignore it until I had a chance to play it for myself. It came as quite a shock that I really did like the game just as much, if not more, than 3.5. I didn't sell out or become some sort of traitor, I just enjoyed how the game played.That said, it is a very different game than 3.5 and I like them both. I really don't plan to abandon the 3.x ruleset, though there's a good chance that any future games played with those rules with be with the Pathfinder game. I fully intend to keep a subscription to both Pathfinder and DDI. I probably will not be buying many of the support books for 4th edition though. I found that the 3.x splats never really meshed well with the core rules in game, and I didn't like having to reference 20 books at the table. The major rules updates, like the PHB II and III, I probably will buy.As for my design goals for 4th edition, I think I'm going to hang out on the fringes and do adventures and settings for a while. I'll leave class designs for the rules cranking machines like Ari Maramel.</blockquote>