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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4292911" data-attributes="member: 48965">Are you sure about this?  I see people bemoaning the inability to buy books, but in actuality it seems to have been first, the gift set people can't get, and secondly only from places like Amazon and Buy.com ( in other words big discount retailers).  I have seen numerous places where one can still order the gift sets online (for a slightly to much higher price) and the individual corebooks are still for sale even at places like amazon and buy.com.  I think this may moreso speak to WotC deciding to release a gift set that is actually cheaper than the individual books and comes with a slipcase, as well as most customers not wanting to pay the MSRP (myself included since I got my books with a friend's discount at Borders).  I would even go a little further and say it's not just a system change...it's a fundamental change to what is D&D.  And before everyone starts I don't mean what is D&D to individuals but instead what has been the common D&D mythos throughout 1e, 2e and 3e.  Yes it evolved and expanded from 1e to 2e... then shrank and became minimal from 2e to 3e but it was still there, no matter how miniscule throughout those editions.  Even though it's hard to believe, some people actually enjoyed the D&D mythos...  I know I personally thought Planescape and Dark Sun were some of the most imaginative, exciting and interesting settings to ever come out of WotC (whether they were your cup of tea or not) and I think WotC really dropped the ball as far as utilizing it's mythos during 3rd edition.  This is one reason I think 3PP did so well in the setting and alternate fantasy games area of the d20 publishing field.  IMHO WotC chose not to put it's best foot forward against settings like Scarred Lands, Iron Kingdoms, Midnight, etc. instead playing it safe and saw later just how profitable a good, original and innovative setting could be.  The problem is that I feel now they really think the new is what sold these settings rather than the innovation and originality.  Big mistake IMHO, I don't want a bootleg Planescape or bootleg Dark Sun, I think a better idea would have been to start from ground zero with these settings as they appeared in 2e.  Alas one of the reasons I bought 4e was the hope that PS was going to be done for it, but now I see it isn't going to be PS, but a remix of it.  Sometimes there's value in classics as opposed to "the new shiney" YMMV of course</blockquote>

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