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<blockquote data-quote="Locutus Zero" data-source="post: 5587226" data-attributes="member: 100080">There is no rules reference, I was making an observation about how one translates fluff into game mechanics.&nbsp; There's nothing in the rules stopping a monster designer from making a single tail swipe into two different attacks, that would just be a poorly designed monster.&nbsp; I was just trying to help you see how two attacks and one attack targeting two people are, flavor-wise, not interchangeable.As for &quot;The only time you are making two attacks in a single action is when a power says 'make a second attack' or 'use your dagger attack twice'.&quot;, I can't think of any other ways to get two attacks out of one action for a monster.&nbsp; I'm trying to point out that it's rare.&nbsp; Let me approach it another way:Imagine a power call tail swipe, its melee, targets all adjacent creatures.&nbsp; That's one attack that targets multiple creatures.Now let's say they fiddle with tail swipe, it stays melee, but only targets one or two creatures.&nbsp; If you choose to target two, it's a single attack targeting two creatures.Now let's say they fiddle with tail swipe some more.&nbsp; They make it a basic attack, but also give the creature a power named &quot;double swipe&quot;.&nbsp; It says &quot;make the tail swipe attack twice&quot;.&nbsp; If you use &quot;double swipe&quot;, you will be resolving two instances of the tail swipe attack, each one targeting 1 creature.This is because an attack is not an attack roll.&nbsp; If that were true, nothing would target more than one person.&nbsp; An attack is an attack power.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Locutus Zero, post: 5587226, member: 100080"] There is no rules reference, I was making an observation about how one translates fluff into game mechanics. There's nothing in the rules stopping a monster designer from making a single tail swipe into two different attacks, that would just be a poorly designed monster. I was just trying to help you see how two attacks and one attack targeting two people are, flavor-wise, not interchangeable. As for "The only time you are making two attacks in a single action is when a power says 'make a second attack' or 'use your dagger attack twice'.", I can't think of any other ways to get two attacks out of one action for a monster. I'm trying to point out that it's rare. Let me approach it another way: Imagine a power call tail swipe, its melee, targets all adjacent creatures. That's one attack that targets multiple creatures. Now let's say they fiddle with tail swipe, it stays melee, but only targets one or two creatures. If you choose to target two, it's a single attack targeting two creatures. Now let's say they fiddle with tail swipe some more. They make it a basic attack, but also give the creature a power named "double swipe". It says "make the tail swipe attack twice". If you use "double swipe", you will be resolving two instances of the tail swipe attack, each one targeting 1 creature. This is because an attack is not an attack roll. If that were true, nothing would target more than one person. An attack is an attack power. [/QUOTE]

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