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<blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5590756" data-attributes="member: 78116"><p>I have always ruled that multiple attack powers, like draconic fury will trigger a mark if a creature makes an individual attack against a non-defender. This made certain defenders immensely hard to deal with by paragon/epic, but with MM3s new damage numbers is fairly irrelevant problem that is firmly in the past (also marks when when a creature falls unconscious now). You can easily slap the defender silly with a couple of hits from a multiple attack power and then direct the remaining attacks against other PCs. </p><p></p><p>This isn't really considering RAW or RAI, probably RAI to be honest as the RAW is in pure mud here. Does an attack that targets one, two or three creatures (which is three separate attacks), which includes the defender not violate a mark? What about if you can use a power or multiple powers in some combination of attacks like Draconic Fury?</p><p></p><p>Honestly, ruling it that if you attack an enemy with a non-burst or blast that doesn't include the defender, it triggers the mark. Much easier, clear to understand without getting into multiple power by power minutae and everyone understands how a power works. I've go no problems challenging PCs with this ruling with the new maths, especially as a single turn can see a defender turned into gooey mulch if he tries to over-mark like they could easily get away with pre-MM3.</p><p></p><p>I'm amazed that Wizards have never clarified this issue. I remember having these exact same discussions in <em>2008</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aegeri, post: 5590756, member: 78116"] I have always ruled that multiple attack powers, like draconic fury will trigger a mark if a creature makes an individual attack against a non-defender. This made certain defenders immensely hard to deal with by paragon/epic, but with MM3s new damage numbers is fairly irrelevant problem that is firmly in the past (also marks when when a creature falls unconscious now). You can easily slap the defender silly with a couple of hits from a multiple attack power and then direct the remaining attacks against other PCs. This isn't really considering RAW or RAI, probably RAI to be honest as the RAW is in pure mud here. Does an attack that targets one, two or three creatures (which is three separate attacks), which includes the defender not violate a mark? What about if you can use a power or multiple powers in some combination of attacks like Draconic Fury? Honestly, ruling it that if you attack an enemy with a non-burst or blast that doesn't include the defender, it triggers the mark. Much easier, clear to understand without getting into multiple power by power minutae and everyone understands how a power works. I've go no problems challenging PCs with this ruling with the new maths, especially as a single turn can see a defender turned into gooey mulch if he tries to over-mark like they could easily get away with pre-MM3. I'm amazed that Wizards have never clarified this issue. I remember having these exact same discussions in [I]2008[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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