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Martial Artist Base Class: Is it Balanced? (Now Revised)
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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Avenger" data-source="post: 1715709" data-attributes="member: 779"><p>More musings about what I'm working on....</p><p></p><p>Dividing up special abilities and talents is sort of blurry as I originally intended talents to be passive abilities and techniques to be active abilities.</p><p></p><p>Anyways I've counted what the Monk would get under this system, even going with a change of dividing the speed bonus to...</p><p></p><p>Improved Speed (+10)</p><p>Greater Speed (+20)</p><p>Superior Speed (+30)</p><p></p><p>And making Ki Strike something that has to be bought we get:</p><p>{3 bonus feats, ki strike (3), speed (3), evasion, still mind, slow fall, purity of body, wholeness of body, improved evasion, diamond body, abundant step, diamond soul, quivering palm, timeless body, tongue of sun and moon, empty body, prefect self, focussed mind, combat awareness} = 25 abilities and feats</p><p>not to mention 5 damage increases, if that becomes something to be bought...</p><p></p><p>Looking on other ways to change the martial artist... </p><p>I could have a good will save again</p><p>Make speed bonuses or certain special abilities free again</p><p>Take away many special abilities to perhaps at 1st level and every even numbered level (11 over 20 levels)...</p><p>Giving them the same bonus feat progression as Psyhic Warriors (1st, 2nd, and every 3 levels after thatm which would be 8 feats over 20 levels)</p><p>Have some abilities bought all at once as part of a chain when certain levels are met.</p><p></p><p>I'm thinking that ability chains could put tighter control on the spread of abilities to be bought. Though I can think of a few, what I've got seems to work around the categories of Offense, Defense, Mobility and Spiritual abilities. Or perhaps I can divide the abilities among Body, Mind and Soul...</p><p></p><p>Examples would be </p><p>Purity of Body -> Wholeness of Body -> Diamond Body -> Timeless Body -> Perfect Self or Immortal State as one chain...</p><p>Still Mind -> Diamond Soul as another chain...</p><p>Leap of Clouds + Slow Fall + Improved Speed -> Greater Speed -> Flight</p><p></p><p>Anyways, I hope to have it so you can create a variety of concepts of types of martial artists with this, such as the good example of Evolved's Pugilist idea...</p><p></p><p>So we could have concepts like Pugilist, Kickboxer, Wushu Expert, Flying or Mystical Martial Artist, Capoerista, Wrestler, Exotic Weapon Expert, and so on...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kobold Avenger, post: 1715709, member: 779"] More musings about what I'm working on.... Dividing up special abilities and talents is sort of blurry as I originally intended talents to be passive abilities and techniques to be active abilities. Anyways I've counted what the Monk would get under this system, even going with a change of dividing the speed bonus to... Improved Speed (+10) Greater Speed (+20) Superior Speed (+30) And making Ki Strike something that has to be bought we get: {3 bonus feats, ki strike (3), speed (3), evasion, still mind, slow fall, purity of body, wholeness of body, improved evasion, diamond body, abundant step, diamond soul, quivering palm, timeless body, tongue of sun and moon, empty body, prefect self, focussed mind, combat awareness} = 25 abilities and feats not to mention 5 damage increases, if that becomes something to be bought... Looking on other ways to change the martial artist... I could have a good will save again Make speed bonuses or certain special abilities free again Take away many special abilities to perhaps at 1st level and every even numbered level (11 over 20 levels)... Giving them the same bonus feat progression as Psyhic Warriors (1st, 2nd, and every 3 levels after thatm which would be 8 feats over 20 levels) Have some abilities bought all at once as part of a chain when certain levels are met. I'm thinking that ability chains could put tighter control on the spread of abilities to be bought. Though I can think of a few, what I've got seems to work around the categories of Offense, Defense, Mobility and Spiritual abilities. Or perhaps I can divide the abilities among Body, Mind and Soul... Examples would be Purity of Body -> Wholeness of Body -> Diamond Body -> Timeless Body -> Perfect Self or Immortal State as one chain... Still Mind -> Diamond Soul as another chain... Leap of Clouds + Slow Fall + Improved Speed -> Greater Speed -> Flight Anyways, I hope to have it so you can create a variety of concepts of types of martial artists with this, such as the good example of Evolved's Pugilist idea... So we could have concepts like Pugilist, Kickboxer, Wushu Expert, Flying or Mystical Martial Artist, Capoerista, Wrestler, Exotic Weapon Expert, and so on... [/QUOTE]
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