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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Romotre" data-source="post: 305309" data-attributes="member: 2942">Characters taking this aren't going to wear armor. Or use shields. Maybe Fighter/Monks but mostly monks. So the no armor prereq is not a hinderance. Crance stance is way better than dodge. Iron palm is a very easy (and likely) thing for a character to rationalize. They punch bags full of ball bearings for hours to devolp an "Iron Palm." This is almost as good as weapon specialization, getting much better when you jump from d12 to d20. The feat in sword and fist lets you attack from prone and if you suceeds you get up for free. With wind in the reeds, you stand up automatically, without having to hit. So it is as good (if my memory of the feat serves). Also (and i'm not sure how i feel about this) these feats make Wisdom by far the better stat for monks. Which is cool for some characters, but I fail to see why you need high wisdom to perform a leg sweep. Find some other way to limit the amount of things they get.</blockquote>