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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jürgen Hubert" data-source="post: 1210590" data-attributes="member: 7177">If you want "real-world" martial arts in a D&D setting, use the fighter and pick appropriate feats and skills.Yes, he will do badly against an armed and armored fighter of equal level, but that's the point - real-world martial artists will do badly against someone who has a sword and armor and knows what he is doing. The whole point of developing martial arts was that the inventors weren't allowed to use any weapons - if you have the choice between using weapons and not using weapons, using weapons is the smart choice.The D&D monk was introduced to make martial artists a viable character concept. Sure, they aren't realistic, but they are fun - and it's no fun seeing your martial artist sliced into tiny pieces by someone armed with a sword.Failing that, there is a "Shou disciple" class in the Forgotten Realms Sourcebook "Unapproachable East" which might be of interest to you - it gives you some of the monk abilities without the mystical baggage.</blockquote>