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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shadowedeyes" data-source="post: 8320620" data-attributes="member: 7027005">I just think Grease isn't the spell that should be the spearhead for if there are balance issues between martials and casters. There are frankly, much better examples.I agree that Action Surge is powerful. I've often considered it one of the more powerful single abilities in the game. But converting it into spell format is difficult in my opinion.False Life felt like the best comparative spell. Aid hits multiple people and Armor of Agathys has the damage component which makes the comparison more difficult. As for if False Life is a good spell, I never claimed it was. Simply that Second Wind, in terms of HP would restore roughly equal to the bonus HP granted by False Life if used in a 5th or 6th level slot. How favorably that makes Second Wind look I didn't actually comment on. An interesting idea to be sure. Indomitable almost certainly should have been better given it's long rest recharge and late level acquisition.</blockquote>