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<blockquote data-quote="Dessert Nomad" data-source="post: 8321072" data-attributes="member: 6976536"><p>At no point did I talk about jumping over obstructions, I talked about jumping over the grease effect itself and possibly a prone creature, which is generally less than 5' tall, especially if you're house ruling them to only large size instead of giant. Again, the problem with the obstructions you're describing is that if they shut down jumping to a square, they also shut down walking to the square, so there's no reason for the tanks to be walking there. If there are PCs in the area, aren't the giants going to want to stop to attack them? </p><p></p><p>Again, the geometry you're talking about doesn't make sense to me, and sounds like at best it's really tailored to making this specific tactic work, not something generally applicable.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I pointed out before, portent is not a 'back pocket' ability, you have to use it before you see the roll. It doesn't 'ensure if needed'</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not straight-forward at all, you've listed contradictory elements to the terrain - both that it is completely blocked on one side (so that someone can't simply jump over the grease effect) and that creatures for some reason want to walk across the grease to the other side. If all of the 'landing zones' are blocked, so are all of the 'walking to' zones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dessert Nomad, post: 8321072, member: 6976536"] At no point did I talk about jumping over obstructions, I talked about jumping over the grease effect itself and possibly a prone creature, which is generally less than 5' tall, especially if you're house ruling them to only large size instead of giant. Again, the problem with the obstructions you're describing is that if they shut down jumping to a square, they also shut down walking to the square, so there's no reason for the tanks to be walking there. If there are PCs in the area, aren't the giants going to want to stop to attack them? Again, the geometry you're talking about doesn't make sense to me, and sounds like at best it's really tailored to making this specific tactic work, not something generally applicable. As I pointed out before, portent is not a 'back pocket' ability, you have to use it before you see the roll. It doesn't 'ensure if needed' It's not straight-forward at all, you've listed contradictory elements to the terrain - both that it is completely blocked on one side (so that someone can't simply jump over the grease effect) and that creatures for some reason want to walk across the grease to the other side. If all of the 'landing zones' are blocked, so are all of the 'walking to' zones. [/QUOTE]
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