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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Distracted DM" data-source="post: 9588067" data-attributes="member: 6894926">The game's provided monsters and their difficulty, compared to the capabilities of the player characters, are the measuring stick for what's "powerful" and "weight classes" in a system.Can a level 3 group handle an ogre? Can they handily handle 6 ogres? How likely is it that there are a dozen ogres to pose a threat to the village, rather than one or two ogres?A tier 3 party can handle a CR23+ ancient dragon... how many ancient dragons are there in the land? How many do I have to add to the setting to consistently challenge the party?You say I can just change the numbers on the sheet... OK but now I'm basically rewriting the monster manual, especially since I'm making an ancient dragon CR16, I'm going to need to make a SuperAncient dragon for the new CR23.5e's power scale is a bit whacky after tier 2; I'm comfortable saying that.Increasing PC power, and then increasing monster power to compensate, just means that we're throwing higher and higher numbers at each-other; I'd prefer to avoid that, and keep the numbers lower... crazy high numbers are why I got out of PF1e, and why I didn't turn to PF2e.</blockquote>