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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9649106" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Personally, I think Martial and Caster are talking about two different things, two different traits and they are not exclusionary.IMO Paladins, Rangers, High Elf Champions, Valor Bards, Bladesingers and Hexblades are all martials.&nbsp; They are also all casters.&nbsp; I don't feel like being one of those means you are not the other.Just like you can be an athlete and you can be a gamer and if you play both D&amp;D and Basketball you are both an athlete and a gamer.For me caster is a lot easier to define than martial.&nbsp; If you can cast any spells at all you are a caster.&nbsp; Whether it is one cantrip once a day or a full complement of spells up to 9th level, if you cast you are a caster.Martial is much more ambiguous -martial weapons proficiency or sneak attack both qualify in my opinion, but it is a lot muddier.&nbsp; I have seen other people throw out extra attack as the qualifier, but then no one under level 5 is a martial .... so it is a lot more ambiguous.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9649106, member: 7030563"] Personally, I think Martial and Caster are talking about two different things, two different traits and they are not exclusionary. IMO Paladins, Rangers, High Elf Champions, Valor Bards, Bladesingers and Hexblades are all martials. They are also all casters. I don't feel like being one of those means you are not the other. Just like you can be an athlete and you can be a gamer and if you play both D&D and Basketball you are both an athlete and a gamer. For me caster is a lot easier to define than martial. If you can cast any spells at all you are a caster. Whether it is one cantrip once a day or a full complement of spells up to 9th level, if you cast you are a caster. Martial is much more ambiguous -martial weapons proficiency or sneak attack both qualify in my opinion, but it is a lot muddier. I have seen other people throw out extra attack as the qualifier, but then no one under level 5 is a martial .... so it is a lot more ambiguous. [/QUOTE]

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