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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9651559" data-attributes="member: 7030563">With two short rests at level 2-5 expertise is only better if you roll 11 or more checks in the skills you have expertise in.  That is not a few, it is a lot.That is not close at all as I don't remember a single session where we rolled 11 checks in 2 skills in a day.Right it is a Warrior that blows THE BEST expert out of the water for 20% of the game and is still better than them for another 20% of the game, and I think it stays better than one of the Experts (Ranger) all the way to 20th level.In terms of class mechanics a Ranger is never a better skill Monkey than a fighter, a Rogue is better for slightly more than half the game if you play all 20 levels, but a Fighter is better at combat for all of the game.Bard, like other casters, can select spells for the non-combat pillars and be comparable from about level 7 on, and better than a Rogue at high levels too while also being better at combat.Experts are not the best skill monkeys.  A Warrior is at most of tier 1 and 2.</blockquote>