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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 4188398" data-attributes="member: 17077">The thing that bothers me is that those rituals used to be Wizard and Cleric spells, and were a huge part of their mystique and role in the world. Wizards were said to train for years, even decades to master those arcane formulae, learn about alchemy and gain a thorough understanding of the occult forces at play in the universe. Throwing fireballs were just simple tricks in comparison to the more complicated spells. The same goes for Clerics. While anyone can pray to a god, clerics had a much greater devotion and became actual proxies for their deities. They had to study, meditate and recite special prayers, all in an effort to understand how to actually call upon and channel divine forces, rather than simply request them.By first making all of those spells rituals, and then enabling anyone to learn them, they've basically butchered the Wizard and Cleric classes and given all their best stuff away. Magic just doesn't have the same feel to me when anyone can pick it up for a feat or two. I don't really like the idea of Wizards using divine rituals or Clerics using arcane rituals either. I can understand that, assuming the classes are all balanced without rituals, it wouldn't exactly be fair to martial classes if they were cut off completely from that option. I just don't really like the implications it has.</blockquote>