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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6386343" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Anyone who can take a <em>critical hit</em> from an orc with a large axe and be unphased by it is either wearing something like Gothic Plate or is supernatural.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This too. D&D weapons seem to be nerf weapons - in a realistic sytem all fighter attacks should be Save or Die. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd be happy if a novaing wizard still couldn't touch the fighter in combat.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except where it explicitly says otherwise - Hercules has been mentioned as inspiration for a D&D fighter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which makes it utterly unlike D&D magic which is as free and easy as Harry Potter.</p><p></p><p>If you want to replace the D&D wizards with <em>WFRP </em>wizards, feel free. Because right now your argument appears to be something like "D&D Fighters come from Sword and Sorcery. D&D Wizards come from Exalted. And they are different in power because the two sources are different in power and nothing should be done to attempt to deal with how different the source material is.".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is nonsense. Fafhrd is simply <em>much lower level</em> than Hercules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because Hercules didn't have Totem Animals. </p><p></p><p>And because the fighter pretends to be level 20. If you want to put a rule into D&D that says "The fighter only exists from levels 1-5" that would actually work. A "level 20" fighter who can't keep up with level 20 casters is false advertising.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fine. Why the double standards with wizards who can curb-stomp the power shown by demigods?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Anything except level 20 threats...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6386343, member: 87792"] Anyone who can take a [I]critical hit[/I] from an orc with a large axe and be unphased by it is either wearing something like Gothic Plate or is supernatural. This too. D&D weapons seem to be nerf weapons - in a realistic sytem all fighter attacks should be Save or Die. I'd be happy if a novaing wizard still couldn't touch the fighter in combat. Except where it explicitly says otherwise - Hercules has been mentioned as inspiration for a D&D fighter. Which makes it utterly unlike D&D magic which is as free and easy as Harry Potter. If you want to replace the D&D wizards with [I]WFRP [/I]wizards, feel free. Because right now your argument appears to be something like "D&D Fighters come from Sword and Sorcery. D&D Wizards come from Exalted. And they are different in power because the two sources are different in power and nothing should be done to attempt to deal with how different the source material is.". This is nonsense. Fafhrd is simply [I]much lower level[/I] than Hercules. Because Hercules didn't have Totem Animals. And because the fighter pretends to be level 20. If you want to put a rule into D&D that says "The fighter only exists from levels 1-5" that would actually work. A "level 20" fighter who can't keep up with level 20 casters is false advertising. Fine. Why the double standards with wizards who can curb-stomp the power shown by demigods? Anything except level 20 threats... [/QUOTE]
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