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<blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 5782080" data-attributes="member: 32536"><p>Honestly, I see no point in asking Martial characters to be limited to real-world limitations. Doing so not only breaks with almost every one of the traditions of fantasy and myth D&D is based on, it causes D&D's own world to stop making sense. It is also a lot less fun.</p><p></p><p>I mean, look at the monsters a mid- to high-level character has to fight in D&D. Sphinxes, Chimeras, Dragons, Demons... A real-world human would be very hard-pressed to safely fight off a lion or bear with a melee weapon, but those creatures are quite low-level D&D opponents, and the monsters a D&D Fighter has to stand toe-to-toe with make lions and bears look like lazy kittens. A D&D Fighter is expected to use a sword to stab towering beasts with ironlike hide and ludicrously unnatural strength. Beyond that, they're expected to <em>win</em>.</p><p></p><p>By the very nature of the game and the foes they must face, D&D Fighters (and other Martial characters) are in the same league as the great heroes of myth, not average real-world people. They're in the company of people like the heroes of ireland, whose battles are given as the origin for much of that country's <em>geography</em>. Or King Arthur, who kills dragons using nothing more than sword, spear, and a good horse, and can fight off the Roman Empire while exhausted from a previous battle (at the age of nearly 100, no less). And those characters would only be mid-level in D&D terms! The true Epic Tier heroes of myth (the ones who actually fight Demon Lords) are more inclined to perform feats like jumping the length of a country while carrying a mountain on their backs.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, I see no point in using real world physics or physical limitations to describe D&D characters. After all, doing so is little more than a double standard. According to real world physics, gryphons couldn't fly, giant insects would die of oxygen deprivation, and giants would shatter their own bones with their body weight. None of these creatures use magic to justify their existence in D&D, so why should powerful Fighters?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TwinBahamut, post: 5782080, member: 32536"] Honestly, I see no point in asking Martial characters to be limited to real-world limitations. Doing so not only breaks with almost every one of the traditions of fantasy and myth D&D is based on, it causes D&D's own world to stop making sense. It is also a lot less fun. I mean, look at the monsters a mid- to high-level character has to fight in D&D. Sphinxes, Chimeras, Dragons, Demons... A real-world human would be very hard-pressed to safely fight off a lion or bear with a melee weapon, but those creatures are quite low-level D&D opponents, and the monsters a D&D Fighter has to stand toe-to-toe with make lions and bears look like lazy kittens. A D&D Fighter is expected to use a sword to stab towering beasts with ironlike hide and ludicrously unnatural strength. Beyond that, they're expected to [i]win[/i]. By the very nature of the game and the foes they must face, D&D Fighters (and other Martial characters) are in the same league as the great heroes of myth, not average real-world people. They're in the company of people like the heroes of ireland, whose battles are given as the origin for much of that country's [i]geography[/i]. Or King Arthur, who kills dragons using nothing more than sword, spear, and a good horse, and can fight off the Roman Empire while exhausted from a previous battle (at the age of nearly 100, no less). And those characters would only be mid-level in D&D terms! The true Epic Tier heroes of myth (the ones who actually fight Demon Lords) are more inclined to perform feats like jumping the length of a country while carrying a mountain on their backs. Anyways, I see no point in using real world physics or physical limitations to describe D&D characters. After all, doing so is little more than a double standard. According to real world physics, gryphons couldn't fly, giant insects would die of oxygen deprivation, and giants would shatter their own bones with their body weight. None of these creatures use magic to justify their existence in D&D, so why should powerful Fighters? [/QUOTE]
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