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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 7982225" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>I think bards and clerics are very good and useful casters easily on par with martials as far as usefulness goes. They have game changing abilities.</p><p></p><p>Now offensive focused wizards and sorcerers I'm not sure of. Then I thought about PF2 and the types of things that they design team was trying to get rid of. I was thinking that the PF2 team does not want the generalist caster good at nearly everything any more able to choose optimal spells for each level. Instead PF2 will allow you to do something if you specialize in it. And casters can specialize in more ways of doing something than martials.</p><p></p><p>So now I am seeing if I can build a caster that equal a martials damage by focusing on nothing but damage. Very few utility spells or slots used for anything but damage. You just use all your slots and cantrips and focus spells to bring the hammer. If I can do that, then I will prove what I think to be true that even casters who want to do well need to be specialized like a martial. An archer shoots a bow. A sword and board guy wields a sword and board usually having good AC. A two-hander deals damage.</p><p></p><p>And this applies to casters. If you want to be a good healer, focus on healing. You want to be a good summoner, focus heavily on summoning using your highest level spell slots to cast summons and focus on enhancing them. If you want a damage caster, focus on damaging spells. I think if you do that, you can compete with martials in damage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 7982225, member: 5834"] I think bards and clerics are very good and useful casters easily on par with martials as far as usefulness goes. They have game changing abilities. Now offensive focused wizards and sorcerers I'm not sure of. Then I thought about PF2 and the types of things that they design team was trying to get rid of. I was thinking that the PF2 team does not want the generalist caster good at nearly everything any more able to choose optimal spells for each level. Instead PF2 will allow you to do something if you specialize in it. And casters can specialize in more ways of doing something than martials. So now I am seeing if I can build a caster that equal a martials damage by focusing on nothing but damage. Very few utility spells or slots used for anything but damage. You just use all your slots and cantrips and focus spells to bring the hammer. If I can do that, then I will prove what I think to be true that even casters who want to do well need to be specialized like a martial. An archer shoots a bow. A sword and board guy wields a sword and board usually having good AC. A two-hander deals damage. And this applies to casters. If you want to be a good healer, focus on healing. You want to be a good summoner, focus heavily on summoning using your highest level spell slots to cast summons and focus on enhancing them. If you want a damage caster, focus on damaging spells. I think if you do that, you can compete with martials in damage. [/QUOTE]
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