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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Porridge" data-source="post: 8002973" data-attributes="member: 7020143">That's interesting. I've had the opposite impression; Wizards seem better positioned with respect to metamagic in PF2 than PF1.In PF1, both Sorcerers and Wizards can get pretty much any metamagic feat. The Wizard gets some bonus feats which can be used on metamagic feats. The Sorcerer gets bonus bloodline feats, which generally included at least a couple metamagic feats, and starts with a free metamagic feat (Eschew Materials). But there the parity ends. For the Sorcerer can spontaneously choose whether to use a higher level spell slot for metamagic, while Wizards have to memorize higher level spell slot with metamagic ahead of time if they want to use it. In practice, this had the result in my games that Sorcerers used metamagic a lot, while Wizards rarely used metamagic. (For example, Wizards never used the Silent metamagic feat, because it's too situational to prepare ahead of time. But Sorcerers would often take it.)In PF2, both Wizards and Sorcerers can use class feats to pick up metamagic. But unlike PF1, Wizards get access to some nice metamagic feats that aren't available to Sorcerers (like Conceal Spell, Silent Spell, Clever Counterspell). And unlike PF1, both Wizards and Sorcerers can apply metamagic on the fly, making them much more valuable to Wizards than they were in PF1. So while in Sorcerers seemed to be the better metamagic spellcasters in PF1, Wizards seem to be the better metamagic spellcasters in PF2.</blockquote>

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