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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8978346" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>nope... it is the weakest full caster in melee and it is doing a pretty good job with 1 of there cantrips and 0 spell slots...</p><p></p><p>was not a bladesinger (or they would get a second attack at 1d8+5) and isn't useing any spells slots. </p><p></p><p>there is 0 reason why a wizard should be able to do this, and they are FAR from the only casters that can... </p><p>the valor or sword bard gets 2 attacks or a cantrip not both like bladesinger but also gets 9 levels of spells gets a die code higher of HD and can do this too (useing cha instead of int an arguable better stat)</p><p>the hexblade is down right broken being able to use Cha to attack AND for spells and can do this with 2 attacks or cantrip but also has medium armor 2-3 up to 5th level spell slots per short rest and 1 each of 6ht-9th level spells...and that d8 HD instead of d6</p><p></p><p>The war cleric and the druid... you know what I think you get it.</p><p></p><p>this wasn't the best melee tank of the casters useing everything they have... this was the worst melee tank of the casters useing 0 spell slots and only 1 at will</p><p></p><p></p><p>at will with no resource use... correct this wasn't my best this was just a wizard. again a blade singer will have higher AC and both have spells 9th level ones by the time of 20th level.</p><p></p><p>again I love this... second wind is cool but it is not on par with ANY 2md level spells let alone 8th or 9th (I can see a good argument that it is as good as a 1st level spell though)</p><p></p><p>the base cantrip is adding INT, if you don't know green flame blade then maybe you need to go read up on melee casters... because I am going to have to assume you have never seen one in play.</p><p></p><p>it's about 2/3 but okay we can round down to 50%... okay now that wizard gets a subclass (cause again I DIDN'T use blade singer or the numbers are higher) and 1st 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th level spells... all the way up to 9th.</p><p></p><p>wait what?!?!</p><p>a wizard can prep level+int mod spells and has a full caster worth of slots... if they put ANY of those to tank or damage they up that 50%... if they put ALL of them to it they shoot past the fighter... but they don't have to put all of them, just a few defenses (shield is big) and a few damage at range (too many to list) and then can prep 'make under water basket weave itself' and still be fine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8978346, member: 67338"] nope... it is the weakest full caster in melee and it is doing a pretty good job with 1 of there cantrips and 0 spell slots... was not a bladesinger (or they would get a second attack at 1d8+5) and isn't useing any spells slots. there is 0 reason why a wizard should be able to do this, and they are FAR from the only casters that can... the valor or sword bard gets 2 attacks or a cantrip not both like bladesinger but also gets 9 levels of spells gets a die code higher of HD and can do this too (useing cha instead of int an arguable better stat) the hexblade is down right broken being able to use Cha to attack AND for spells and can do this with 2 attacks or cantrip but also has medium armor 2-3 up to 5th level spell slots per short rest and 1 each of 6ht-9th level spells...and that d8 HD instead of d6 The war cleric and the druid... you know what I think you get it. this wasn't the best melee tank of the casters useing everything they have... this was the worst melee tank of the casters useing 0 spell slots and only 1 at will at will with no resource use... correct this wasn't my best this was just a wizard. again a blade singer will have higher AC and both have spells 9th level ones by the time of 20th level. again I love this... second wind is cool but it is not on par with ANY 2md level spells let alone 8th or 9th (I can see a good argument that it is as good as a 1st level spell though) the base cantrip is adding INT, if you don't know green flame blade then maybe you need to go read up on melee casters... because I am going to have to assume you have never seen one in play. it's about 2/3 but okay we can round down to 50%... okay now that wizard gets a subclass (cause again I DIDN'T use blade singer or the numbers are higher) and 1st 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th level spells... all the way up to 9th. wait what?!?! a wizard can prep level+int mod spells and has a full caster worth of slots... if they put ANY of those to tank or damage they up that 50%... if they put ALL of them to it they shoot past the fighter... but they don't have to put all of them, just a few defenses (shield is big) and a few damage at range (too many to list) and then can prep 'make under water basket weave itself' and still be fine. [/QUOTE]
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