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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8984659" data-attributes="member: 72555">I assume something like 8 encounters per day, 2 short rests per day, 3 rounds per encounter (24 per day), and "nominally medium" encounter difficulty?Do you account for "damage received/healed" at all?  (A level 5 fighter in plate is going to have more AC and soak than a level 5 wizard is).Like, a PAM+Spear fighter hitting 65% of attacks with 18 strength and 14 con and a shield has 20 AC, 44 HP, and 3d10+15 (31.5) self heal, does 2d6+1d4+18 (27.5) damage if everything hits from an action (+9.5 on a crit).  At 24 rounds + 3 action surges this comes to 27*.65*27.5+27*.05*9.5=495.5 damage budget.A wizard with 18 intelligence and 14 dex and 14 con has 12 AC and 32 HP.  Firebolt is 2d10 (11) with the same 65% accuracy 5% crit for 184.5 baseline.  Each round not using firebolt costs 7.7 less baseline damage.A 5th level wizard has 4 1st level, 3 2nd level, and 2 3rd level spells, and can recover 1 3rd level spell per day.  Assuming each of those takes an action, the wizard casts 4+3+3=10 less firebolts, meaning only 107.5 firebolt damage.So the fighter gap is 495.5-107.5=388 damage to be made up with leveled spells.  Lets do this!A fireball does 28 damage, 2 targets, 60% failure rate.  .6+.3*.5 is 0.75 average multiplier, *2 is 1.5.  So 28*1.5=42 damage per fireball.  x3 is 126.388-126 is 262 gap remaining.For 2nd level spells, lets go with scorching ray and shatter.  Shatter is 3d8 (13.5) aoe for 20.25 damage per cast.  Scorching Ray is 3*2d6 = 6d6 for 14.7 damage per cast.  Shatter wins.3 casts of shatter is 20.25*3 = 60.75 damage.  201.25 gap remaining and only 1st level spells.  This doesn't look good for the wizard.Burning Hands is probably our best choice.  10.5 damage AOE for 15.75 damage per cast, times 4 is 63 damage.136.25 damage gap remaining.Huh.Fighter total: 495.5Wizard total: 359.25Wizard: 75% of duelist fighter damageFighter total HP (including half rounded up HD) per day: 95Wizard total HP (including half rounded up HD) per day: 48.5Wizard: about 50% of Fighter's durabilityWizard AC: 12, but can boost to 15 by losing a burning hands (probably a good idea).Fighter AC: 20, reduced to 18 if they want to avoid disadvantage on stealth.No subclass used for either.</blockquote>

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