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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8990909" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>I do believe some people may not like this, and those people are probably right in their choice not play fighters because of it, but I also believe there are many players that like the class specifically BECAUSE of this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In general disagree with this completely. They are one of the weaker classes in combat, but hardly boring. They are in fact one of the most exciting for me to play, after the Rogue.</p><p></p><p>How the DM runs a game can be a big incluence on this though. I have played with DMs that get angry when a player trys anything other than hit him with my stick or cast my spell at him and if that is your DM then it is not as fun.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not the only person who likes fighters and they score at the top or near the top of every single poll.</p><p></p><p>If we are using popularity as a metric fighters are one of the last classes we need to "fix"</p><p></p><p>I know many, many players who have had fun playing fighters. In the 30+ groups I have played with in the past 4 years, including both as a DM and a player, fighters are played FAR more often than any single pfull casting class except possibly Clerics (and I think they are ahead fo Clerics). I would also say they are played more often than Paladins or Rangers.</p><p></p><p>Now that is dozens of fighter characters played or played with, and those are anecdotes specific to my experiences, but the players at your table that consider it 5E snoozefest but love 4E fighters are anecdotes as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I hate the 4e fighter because in the attempt to "balance" it with the other classes they gave it daily powers, encounter powers etc that are rougly on par with spells and detract from the fantasy surrounding the class.</p><p></p><p>I also hate that other classes can't come close to it in combat without using their powers or spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because races already shatter the laws of nature with their very existence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8990909, member: 7030563"] I do believe some people may not like this, and those people are probably right in their choice not play fighters because of it, but I also believe there are many players that like the class specifically BECAUSE of this. In general disagree with this completely. They are one of the weaker classes in combat, but hardly boring. They are in fact one of the most exciting for me to play, after the Rogue. How the DM runs a game can be a big incluence on this though. I have played with DMs that get angry when a player trys anything other than hit him with my stick or cast my spell at him and if that is your DM then it is not as fun. I am not the only person who likes fighters and they score at the top or near the top of every single poll. If we are using popularity as a metric fighters are one of the last classes we need to "fix" I know many, many players who have had fun playing fighters. In the 30+ groups I have played with in the past 4 years, including both as a DM and a player, fighters are played FAR more often than any single pfull casting class except possibly Clerics (and I think they are ahead fo Clerics). I would also say they are played more often than Paladins or Rangers. Now that is dozens of fighter characters played or played with, and those are anecdotes specific to my experiences, but the players at your table that consider it 5E snoozefest but love 4E fighters are anecdotes as well. I hate the 4e fighter because in the attempt to "balance" it with the other classes they gave it daily powers, encounter powers etc that are rougly on par with spells and detract from the fantasy surrounding the class. I also hate that other classes can't come close to it in combat without using their powers or spells. Because races already shatter the laws of nature with their very existence. [/QUOTE]
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