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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 8997061" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>That would be why I specified "pre-adventuring career" rather than the multiclass rules for in-play.</p><p></p><p> Now we're getting somewhere! How would you adjust the Champion and Battlemaster to keep them at the same capability of your new Eldritch Knight?</p><p></p><p> So what? </p><p>Even melee-focused casters are specifically about mixing magic and weapons, not relying on weapons only. </p><p>That's not just moving the goalpost across the back edge, that is setting the goal up most of the way down the field.</p><p></p><p> Which is why this houserule may not be for everyone. </p><p>Some people may may not be seeing any issue. There may ne others like yourself who are aware of the imbalance but are happy to perpetuate the divide between the haves and have-nots based on your supremacist views.</p><p>Such people are not required to use this houserule.</p><p></p><p> I am struggling to believe that some extra feats, even if they are invested into combat are going to close the gap in combat performance in the way the game seems to generally be played.</p><p></p><p>Even if so, the suggestion to limit the extra feats to non-combat use was made quite early in this thread.</p><p></p><p> Having a choice between two things is always more powerful than only being able to do one of them even if they are only of equal power.</p><p></p><p> Even assuming the battlemaster gets a short rest at some point, Paladin smites overtake battlemaster supremacy die damage at only 5th level.</p><p></p><p> You yourself have been saying that they are less capable than many classes including the wizard. Hence the metaphor.</p><p></p><p> Yes. This question is specifically addressed to you. There is nothing in there that indicates that I believe there is no place for a fighter class.</p><p>Would you care to actually answer it now?</p><p></p><p> I think I would prefer it if you took a little extra care to read what I actually say, rather than just apologising after you claim I said something I didn't.</p><p>Likewise with answering a question that I wasn't asking rather than the one I was.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 8997061, member: 6802951"] That would be why I specified "pre-adventuring career" rather than the multiclass rules for in-play. Now we're getting somewhere! How would you adjust the Champion and Battlemaster to keep them at the same capability of your new Eldritch Knight? So what? Even melee-focused casters are specifically about mixing magic and weapons, not relying on weapons only. That's not just moving the goalpost across the back edge, that is setting the goal up most of the way down the field. Which is why this houserule may not be for everyone. Some people may may not be seeing any issue. There may ne others like yourself who are aware of the imbalance but are happy to perpetuate the divide between the haves and have-nots based on your supremacist views. Such people are not required to use this houserule. I am struggling to believe that some extra feats, even if they are invested into combat are going to close the gap in combat performance in the way the game seems to generally be played. Even if so, the suggestion to limit the extra feats to non-combat use was made quite early in this thread. Having a choice between two things is always more powerful than only being able to do one of them even if they are only of equal power. Even assuming the battlemaster gets a short rest at some point, Paladin smites overtake battlemaster supremacy die damage at only 5th level. You yourself have been saying that they are less capable than many classes including the wizard. Hence the metaphor. Yes. This question is specifically addressed to you. There is nothing in there that indicates that I believe there is no place for a fighter class. Would you care to actually answer it now? I think I would prefer it if you took a little extra care to read what I actually say, rather than just apologising after you claim I said something I didn't. Likewise with answering a question that I wasn't asking rather than the one I was. [/QUOTE]
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