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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 3728910" data-attributes="member: 1139"><p>That's fine- the "knowing whether the bluff would work or not" is the important issue and it's not covered in the rules, so it's your call. I think I played it differently as GM but that was also a conscious decision on my part. Also, in the online format it does add more complexity than it would be otherwise, since it entails posting extra contingent actions.</p><p></p><p>For the game:</p><p>Usually there's no way to be instantly dead if you miss a toughness save, as the worst that can happen to you is that you're reduced to dying (and get a Fort save to avoid death). That applies to minions as well- they're only reduced to dying on a missed save. Are you having minions (this one and the one Wolverine killed) die in one hit without a Fort save just because they're minions and you're making an exception to that, you forgot that part of the rule, or a conscious massive damage (i.e., fail toughness save by 20+= dead) house rule?</p><p></p><p>Also, is there a reason the minion hit by the gunfire didn't get a Toughness save? Did you forget or was it For Dramatic Effect?</p><p></p><p>Note that minions can't critical hit heroes (page 163)</p><p>Personally, in my game I let minions who had Improved Critical once crit on a 20. So a sword-wielding minion would crit on a 20 alone instead of a 19-20 if he wasn't a minion. That's why no one messes with ninjas <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elric, post: 3728910, member: 1139"] That's fine- the "knowing whether the bluff would work or not" is the important issue and it's not covered in the rules, so it's your call. I think I played it differently as GM but that was also a conscious decision on my part. Also, in the online format it does add more complexity than it would be otherwise, since it entails posting extra contingent actions. For the game: Usually there's no way to be instantly dead if you miss a toughness save, as the worst that can happen to you is that you're reduced to dying (and get a Fort save to avoid death). That applies to minions as well- they're only reduced to dying on a missed save. Are you having minions (this one and the one Wolverine killed) die in one hit without a Fort save just because they're minions and you're making an exception to that, you forgot that part of the rule, or a conscious massive damage (i.e., fail toughness save by 20+= dead) house rule? Also, is there a reason the minion hit by the gunfire didn't get a Toughness save? Did you forget or was it For Dramatic Effect? Note that minions can't critical hit heroes (page 163) Personally, in my game I let minions who had Improved Critical once crit on a 20. So a sword-wielding minion would crit on a 20 alone instead of a 19-20 if he wasn't a minion. That's why no one messes with ninjas :) [/QUOTE]
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