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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8227100" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>It's hard to have any investment in a story about a gonzo OTT protagonist.</p><p></p><p>They dialed the power up to 11 in DCEU with Aquaman on the same power level as Thor from the MCU, Cyborg able to control the economy (and nukes) of the planet with a thought, Golden Age flying Wonder Woman, Flash able to reverse time, and Superman at his prime.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile they chronically underplay Batmans strengths (detective work, planning, strategy, stealth, tactical genius), having him charge in headfirst in to battles, and leaving him looking even more of either a Mary Sue with Plot armor up the wazoo, or a guy struggling to take down paradaemon mooks, and spending the rest of the fight getting out of the way.</p><p></p><p>The movies for me are just spectacle, with the occasional fear for Batmans safety and questioning his sanity as a dude in a cape hanging around with actual Gods as a 'peer'.</p><p></p><p>All the DCEU protagonists (even Batman, in his power armor) have been hurled through concrete buildings and several hundred Kms per hour and survived without even a broken bone, or any noticeable damage.</p><p></p><p>Marvel handled the differing power levels of the heroes much better, with even niche protagonists like Ant man getting a solid treatment, the characters arcs being better thought out (Iron Man, Thor and Cap), most characters being relatable, and actually having notable flaws.</p><p></p><p>If only Disney could have done the same thing with Star Wars Sequels instead of just ad hocing them. A coherent story-line, relatable protagonists not drenched in plot armor, and clear arcs for each character.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8227100, member: 6788736"] It's hard to have any investment in a story about a gonzo OTT protagonist. They dialed the power up to 11 in DCEU with Aquaman on the same power level as Thor from the MCU, Cyborg able to control the economy (and nukes) of the planet with a thought, Golden Age flying Wonder Woman, Flash able to reverse time, and Superman at his prime. Meanwhile they chronically underplay Batmans strengths (detective work, planning, strategy, stealth, tactical genius), having him charge in headfirst in to battles, and leaving him looking even more of either a Mary Sue with Plot armor up the wazoo, or a guy struggling to take down paradaemon mooks, and spending the rest of the fight getting out of the way. The movies for me are just spectacle, with the occasional fear for Batmans safety and questioning his sanity as a dude in a cape hanging around with actual Gods as a 'peer'. All the DCEU protagonists (even Batman, in his power armor) have been hurled through concrete buildings and several hundred Kms per hour and survived without even a broken bone, or any noticeable damage. Marvel handled the differing power levels of the heroes much better, with even niche protagonists like Ant man getting a solid treatment, the characters arcs being better thought out (Iron Man, Thor and Cap), most characters being relatable, and actually having notable flaws. If only Disney could have done the same thing with Star Wars Sequels instead of just ad hocing them. A coherent story-line, relatable protagonists not drenched in plot armor, and clear arcs for each character. [/QUOTE]
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