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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 4847426" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>see this whole thing has one major issue...Kirk is the hero of his story/universe...Elminster is the hero sometimes...other tiems he is a supporting character that gets to mayr sue level...</p><p></p><p>If I picked up a book set in the new star trek movie area and everyone was falling over backwards for kirk who only shows up in 2 chapters...I would agree...HOWEVER that is not the case.</p><p></p><p>Batman, Kirk, Harminie, Sherlock Homes, House MD, and many other characters boarder on sue hood, becuse they are too good. Infact that is where opions come into play. How ever When I pick up Blue bettle comics, and the main character (with alien artafact powers) spends the whole issue getting his butt kicked by the bad guy, then batman comes in and wraps it up in 1 pannel...it is batman being used as a mary sue...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>yea becuse I sooo see ed greenwood as a pathetic looser..<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p></p><p>Maybe you missed the part were I respect his world, but not his characters... He is an OK writer in my mind (not great, but far from pathetic) BUT his character IS a mary sue by every strech of the word...</p><p></p><p>He is good at everything (Look at his classes...he was a fighter, a theif an wizard a prestess (yes he was a girl for a while). He is one of the most powerful wizards in the world, he ignores the over god telling him not to do something (((El sue is training midnight to be the new mystra (yes this mortal wizard is a better teacher then the other gods) and AO tells him to lay off she has to learn on her own...what does El Sue do...he keeps teaching))).</p><p>He has had intmate knowlage of many women over the years...so much for the nerdy wizard sterotype he is a player...</p><p>He IS ed in the game world...infact Ed use to walk around conventions and holloween parties as elminster...</p><p>He inteacts with ed in the story by breaking the 4th wall and being a packers fan and drinking eds type of beer...</p><p></p><p>what level does that not fit suehood???</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 4847426, member: 67338"] see this whole thing has one major issue...Kirk is the hero of his story/universe...Elminster is the hero sometimes...other tiems he is a supporting character that gets to mayr sue level... If I picked up a book set in the new star trek movie area and everyone was falling over backwards for kirk who only shows up in 2 chapters...I would agree...HOWEVER that is not the case. Batman, Kirk, Harminie, Sherlock Homes, House MD, and many other characters boarder on sue hood, becuse they are too good. Infact that is where opions come into play. How ever When I pick up Blue bettle comics, and the main character (with alien artafact powers) spends the whole issue getting his butt kicked by the bad guy, then batman comes in and wraps it up in 1 pannel...it is batman being used as a mary sue... yea becuse I sooo see ed greenwood as a pathetic looser..:confused: Maybe you missed the part were I respect his world, but not his characters... He is an OK writer in my mind (not great, but far from pathetic) BUT his character IS a mary sue by every strech of the word... He is good at everything (Look at his classes...he was a fighter, a theif an wizard a prestess (yes he was a girl for a while). He is one of the most powerful wizards in the world, he ignores the over god telling him not to do something (((El sue is training midnight to be the new mystra (yes this mortal wizard is a better teacher then the other gods) and AO tells him to lay off she has to learn on her own...what does El Sue do...he keeps teaching))). He has had intmate knowlage of many women over the years...so much for the nerdy wizard sterotype he is a player... He IS ed in the game world...infact Ed use to walk around conventions and holloween parties as elminster... He inteacts with ed in the story by breaking the 4th wall and being a packers fan and drinking eds type of beer... what level does that not fit suehood??? [/QUOTE]
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