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<blockquote data-quote="shadow" data-source="post: 466169" data-attributes="member: 2182">I deffinately want mass combat rules.&nbsp; There have been situations in games I have run that required mass combat. &nbsp;In one 2e game I ran some time ago a player had the noble kit (from Skills and Powers)&nbsp; I allowed him to start out with a manor and a small army (for role playing purposes).&nbsp; However in one game, the PCs and his army were drawn into battle against a dark hord.&nbsp; I thought it would be a neat idea if we would actually play the battle out.&nbsp; I let each of the PCs be commanders of a group of units.&nbsp; However, lacking mass combat rules, I really had to &quot;wing it&quot;.&nbsp;If WotC does make a mass combat system, I would like to see the following things:1. Allow PCs to enter the battle as &quot;Champions&quot; (I imagine other soldiers would be 1st lvl warriors, so the PCs would be kind of like epic heroes.)2. Allow the use of miniatures for tactics.&nbsp; Others may disagree, but I find it fun to play out the battles in a wargame-like style.&nbsp; I don't want a simple roll to determine the entire battle.&nbsp; However, I don't want Warhammer, where I'm forced to shell out a small fortune to buy the official miniatures.&nbsp; The rules should be compatible with any type of miniatures (or even coins or poker chips for us low on money)3. Easy to convert units to standard D&amp;D rules and vive-versa.&nbsp; I don't want to have to spend a lot of time converting monsters/PCs from their individual stats to some wildly different unit stats.&nbsp; Moreover, the rules should be similar to standard d20.&nbsp; That is to say 20+ mods vs AC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shadow, post: 466169, member: 2182"] I deffinately want mass combat rules. There have been situations in games I have run that required mass combat. In one 2e game I ran some time ago a player had the noble kit (from Skills and Powers) I allowed him to start out with a manor and a small army (for role playing purposes). However in one game, the PCs and his army were drawn into battle against a dark hord. I thought it would be a neat idea if we would actually play the battle out. I let each of the PCs be commanders of a group of units. However, lacking mass combat rules, I really had to "wing it". If WotC does make a mass combat system, I would like to see the following things: 1. Allow PCs to enter the battle as "Champions" (I imagine other soldiers would be 1st lvl warriors, so the PCs would be kind of like epic heroes.) 2. Allow the use of miniatures for tactics. Others may disagree, but I find it fun to play out the battles in a wargame-like style. I don't want a simple roll to determine the entire battle. However, I don't want Warhammer, where I'm forced to shell out a small fortune to buy the official miniatures. The rules should be compatible with any type of miniatures (or even coins or poker chips for us low on money) 3. Easy to convert units to standard D&D rules and vive-versa. I don't want to have to spend a lot of time converting monsters/PCs from their individual stats to some wildly different unit stats. Moreover, the rules should be similar to standard d20. That is to say 20+ mods vs AC [/QUOTE]

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