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Message: <blockquote data-quote="scadgrad" data-source="post: 259842" data-attributes="member: 766">not to knit pick...I think you're getting closer to some semblance of an actual fighting force.  I just wanted to add that the average Warrior doesn't start out with 120gp, but rather 75gp.  That means that scale mail & studded leather are probably the 2 most common armors.  Your typical "Legionnaire" would probably be equipped with Scale, Large Shd, Short Sword & Javelin.  That would leave him about 8gps for other incidentals.  "Marcus the Legionnaire" would have a very respectable AC17 thanks to the Phalanx feat & could go up to 19 if he's fighting with his lads in the shield wall.For his stats, I think the 25pts is probably best reserved for PC & NPC classes.  Dropping down to 22 for a young warrior makes sense (especially for veteran units & trained members of standing armies) & actually that 3 points makes quite a bit of difference (or at least it has IMC).  Just assume stats of 14, 13, 13, 12, 10, 8.  I would think those seem reasonable.  If realism is very important, use those stats for leader types and go with 10, 13, 12, 10, 10, 8 for the standard trooper using the 15pt buy.Does anyone here remember the card-based mass-combat rules from Birthright?  I used those quite a bit in our campaign & really liked them.  Top shelf IMO, but of course I like simple abstract rules sets.</blockquote>