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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CRG" data-source="post: 276306" data-attributes="member: 5867">One more thing.Those points about trying to get someone else to do the fighting, or using delaying / attrition on your foes.  THOSE are where the real value of Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, etc. come into play.  Read as much or as many of them as you can and you see those themes come into play.I also recommend Schwartzkopf...there's a reason he teaches at West Point.  I also have a very cool Colin Powel PowerPoint presentation on leadership - not so much about war / strategy but leadership.  Find things like that and read them.For a different take, read the Dahli Lama's books / essays / speeches on the Tibetan situation - and read them all in chronological order.  Read Ghandi as well.  These are two people who seek / sought to bring about revolution and change without violence.  Some may say it is off-topic, but really I think most "strategists" have the opinion that unless you can be assured of victory, its best not to fight and instead defeat your enemy through subversion (or getting someone else to do the fighting).</blockquote>