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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3177972" data-attributes="member: 3929">Except that the first and last targets in line would be hundreds of feet apart. Which is &quot;more than 30 ft. apart&quot;, so no dice there.And if you want them to all be within 30 feet of each other, it should be &quot;Radius 15 ft&quot;, not Radius 30.While this is true, look at the respective power level of the 6th and 7th level Abjurations.6thAntimagic FieldGlobe of InvulnerabilityGreater Dispel Magic7thSequesterSpell TurningSpell Turning must be more desirable than Mass Nondetection. Sequester makes the subject immune to Divination spells, though it does make them comatose and in stasis. And is Mass Nondetection only one level cheaper than the assuredness of Mind Blank?&nbsp; I feel like this spell is more in line with the power of Greater Dispel and the Globe of Invulnerability. What makes Mass Nondetection a 6th level spell for me is that is it not infallable; there is still a caster-level check. At 11th level, enemy casters only need a 22 on their caster level check to scry (unless they target you, in which case it's 27); with the PCs at that level, they will begin to attract the attention of NPCs who won't have much trouble with a CL 22 check.What this does for PCs is force the BBEGs to spend their higher-level mages' time in scrying you, because the low-level apprentices can't beat the caster-level check.What this does for NPCs is make it ducedly hard for a reliable Scry-teleport scenario against them.At 7th level, having that uncertainty of the caster level check is a high price to pay. Especially when at 8th level Mind Blank grants total immunity.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3177972, member: 3929"] Except that the first and last targets in line would be hundreds of feet apart. Which is "more than 30 ft. apart", so no dice there. And if you want them to all be within 30 feet of each other, it should be "Radius 15 ft", not Radius 30. While this is true, look at the respective power level of the 6th and 7th level Abjurations. [u]6th[/u] Antimagic Field Globe of Invulnerability Greater Dispel Magic [u]7th[/u] Sequester Spell Turning Spell Turning must be more desirable than Mass Nondetection. Sequester makes the subject immune to Divination spells, though it does make them comatose and in stasis. And is Mass Nondetection only one level cheaper than the assuredness of Mind Blank? I feel like this spell is more in line with the power of Greater Dispel and the Globe of Invulnerability. What makes Mass Nondetection a 6th level spell for me is that is it not infallable; there is still a caster-level check. At 11th level, enemy casters only need a 22 on their caster level check to scry (unless they target you, in which case it's 27); with the PCs at that level, they will begin to attract the attention of NPCs who won't have much trouble with a CL 22 check. What this does for PCs is force the BBEGs to spend their higher-level mages' time in scrying you, because the low-level apprentices can't beat the caster-level check. What this does for NPCs is make it ducedly hard for a reliable Scry-teleport scenario against them. At 7th level, having that uncertainty of the caster level check is a high price to pay. Especially when at 8th level Mind Blank grants total immunity. [/QUOTE]

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