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<blockquote data-quote="Vanye" data-source="post: 3178028" data-attributes="member: 1787">Not always true:&nbsp; 1 level change - aid, mass, at 3rd level (SpC).&nbsp; align fang, mass&nbsp; (SpC), align weapon, mass (SpC), camoflage, mass (SpC), 2 level change - burrow, mass (SpC), contagion, mass (SpC), conviction, mass (SpC)3 level change - Enlarge Person, Mass is 4th, as is Reduce Person.&nbsp; As is Mass Suggestion, at 6th level.&nbsp; Awaken, mass (SpC), is 8th.5 level change - Invisiblity, Mass, is 7th.There are many others, of course, from the SpC.&nbsp; &nbsp;It should come down to flexibility.&nbsp; How useful is a mass burrow spell, generally?&nbsp; Not very often, really.&nbsp; It shouldn't be a 5th level spell (it's nowhere near as useful as Teleport, or even Passwall).&nbsp; On the other hand, some of them are too high a level for what they do - Mass Invisibility, for example, sucks, since the invisiblity is broken for all creatures affected if any affected creature attacks, unlike the 3rd level Invisibility Sphere, where it's only broken for the attacking creature.Personally, I think that if it affects 1 creature per level, it should be a minimum of 2 levels higher, if it's only 1/2 levels I think a minimum of 1 level boost would be okay, and anything else is going to have to be based on what the original spell does...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vanye, post: 3178028, member: 1787"] Not always true: 1 level change - aid, mass, at 3rd level (SpC). align fang, mass (SpC), align weapon, mass (SpC), camoflage, mass (SpC), 2 level change - burrow, mass (SpC), contagion, mass (SpC), conviction, mass (SpC) 3 level change - Enlarge Person, Mass is 4th, as is Reduce Person. As is Mass Suggestion, at 6th level. Awaken, mass (SpC), is 8th. 5 level change - Invisiblity, Mass, is 7th. There are many others, of course, from the SpC. It should come down to flexibility. How useful is a mass burrow spell, generally? Not very often, really. It shouldn't be a 5th level spell (it's nowhere near as useful as Teleport, or even Passwall). On the other hand, some of them are too high a level for what they do - Mass Invisibility, for example, sucks, since the invisiblity is broken for all creatures affected if [i]any[/i] affected creature attacks, unlike the 3rd level Invisibility Sphere, where it's only broken for the attacking creature. Personally, I think that if it affects 1 creature per level, it should be a minimum of 2 levels higher, if it's only 1/2 levels I think a minimum of 1 level boost would be okay, and anything else is going to have to be based on what the original spell does... [/QUOTE]

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