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<blockquote data-quote="Al'Kelhar" data-source="post: 2354405" data-attributes="member: 7884">Thanks Nifft.&nbsp; It's sometimes surprising how many people leap to conclusions about the power of a spell before considering its actual effect.&nbsp; Yes, it has the weakensses you've identified.&nbsp; The spellcaster can't just have his buddies surround each sphere individually, dispel that sphere, and kill the creature trapped inside.&nbsp; Other points:1.&nbsp; Each target creature gets a Reflex save.&nbsp; When used against a PC party, how likely is it that no-one will save?2.&nbsp; The range of the spell is Close.3.&nbsp; How many spheres are you really likely to use, particularly given the limitation on maximum 30' between any two of them?&nbsp; That is, in practice there will be no difference between 1 sphere/level and 1 sphere/2 levels.&nbsp; Keeping it at 1 sphere/level ensures consistent effect with all other &quot;mass&quot; spells (all of which affect up to 1 target per level).4.&nbsp; Maximum diameter of the spheres - you're not using them against anything bigger than Large until you get to very high levels.5.&nbsp; If comparing to mass save-or-die spells, how about mass suggestion, at 6th?&nbsp; Mass hold person at 7th?&nbsp; Isn't sleep (at 1st level) also a mass-save-or-die spell?The question is in what circumstances will this spell be used and what are the consequences of that use.&nbsp; Mass resilient sphere is useful against clumped groups of Large or smaller creatures when the spellcaster is able to get within 50' or so.&nbsp; So it's useful against PCs in surprise situations.&nbsp; As is fireball, for that matter.&nbsp; By the time PCs are facing spellcasters able to cast 7th level spells, there are plenty of threats which can incapacitate a large number of the party in the right circumstances.&nbsp; I still reckon 7th for mass resilient sphere is about right.Cheers, Al'Kelhar</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Al'Kelhar, post: 2354405, member: 7884"] Thanks Nifft. It's sometimes surprising how many people leap to conclusions about the power of a spell before considering its actual effect. Yes, it has the weakensses you've identified. The spellcaster can't just have his buddies surround each sphere individually, dispel that sphere, and kill the creature trapped inside. Other points: 1. Each target creature gets a Reflex save. When used against a PC party, how likely is it that no-one will save? 2. The range of the spell is Close. 3. How many spheres are you really likely to use, particularly given the limitation on maximum 30' between any two of them? That is, in practice there will be no difference between 1 sphere/level and 1 sphere/2 levels. Keeping it at 1 sphere/level ensures consistent effect with all other "mass" spells (all of which affect up to 1 target per level). 4. Maximum diameter of the spheres - you're not using them against anything bigger than Large until you get to very high levels. 5. If comparing to mass save-or-die spells, how about mass suggestion, at 6th? Mass hold person at 7th? Isn't sleep (at 1st level) also a mass-save-or-die spell? The question is in what circumstances will this spell be used and what are the consequences of that use. Mass resilient sphere is useful against clumped groups of Large or smaller creatures when the spellcaster is able to get within 50' or so. So it's useful against PCs in surprise situations. As is fireball, for that matter. By the time PCs are facing spellcasters able to cast 7th level spells, there are plenty of threats which can incapacitate a large number of the party in the right circumstances. I still reckon 7th for mass resilient sphere is about right. Cheers, Al'Kelhar [/QUOTE]

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