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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 98263" data-attributes="member: 834">My party is but a few session away from entering the war against Mulhorand on the side of Unther.  I need mass warfare rules!I thought I would keep it simple and intend to use units as "monster".  They'll have their own stats block.Ex: Heavy Infantry squad, 20 man at arms (chain mail, large shield, long sword)Size; 10'X50'AC: 17HP: 100Move 20Attack bonus; +16/+11The PCs would simply attack such an unit as if it was a monster. Additional rules would be needed though.  The unit is actually composed of 20 men.  When it lose HP, it loses men.  What happens then?  Morale check and a lower attack bonus seem in order.  But when?  Only once when half HP are lost seems reasonable to me.What about feats?Dodge is useless against such an horde.  But cleave is priceless. A bonus to damage for PC with cleave, G-cleave and whirlwind-a who are attacking a unit-monster is in order.  Spring attack?  It should be somewhat useful against a pikeman formation.  Tons of other feats need to be considered.Spells; Disintegration is weak, fireball is strong, wail of the banshee and horrid wilting could clean out a whole unit and then some.  I guess I'll have to do it case by case.Units; 20 men isn't appropriate in all case.  Elite unit should be done as 10 men unit.  I'd need a consistent formula for determining attack bonus and BaB of those units.  I was just shooting from the hip for the stats of the heavy infantry.Opinions?  Am I wasting my time because of a glaring flaw in my base concept that I missed?  Do you see a better way to do mass combat while still keeping the individuality of the PCs intact?  And if you think that my idea has some merit, any help in outlining the final rules for how spells/feats etc. should work in a mass combat would be appreciated.</blockquote>

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