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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Conaill" data-source="post: 1587743" data-attributes="member: 1264">Heh, figures you'd have to pick a tricky one! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Tiny or smaller awakened animals are a pain to estimate LA, because they're so unbalanced (not in an "overpowered" sense, just in an "out of balance" sense). Typically large stat bonuses  and penalties, almost no melee capabilities (that damn 0ft reach!), etc.For the awakened bat, I'd probably put it a +0 LA (or less, depending on how you feel about negative LA's, and how you think Strength 1 and no hands weighs against flight and blindsense.Stat-wise, you'd get a 2d8 (9hp) critter with Str -10 (!), Dex +4, Wis +4, Cha -4. It'll have Blindsense, low-light vision and darkvision 60' (heh! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ), and can only carry 1.5 lb in flight (just enough for a single flask of alchemist's fire <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ).Of course, none of that makes a damn bit of difference, as long as the players are having fun anyway... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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