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<blockquote data-quote="Hrothgar Rannúlfr" data-source="post: 5320426" data-attributes="member: 54436">continuing to think in print because I find this subject interesting...Just looked up Trailblazer's Save v. Massive Damage rule... It's a fortitude save, too.&nbsp; So, even with their decidedly non-physical view of positive hit points (based upon the idea that 50% of them can be recovered with nothing more than 10 minutes of rest), it seems that a &quot;hit&quot; that provokes the need to save v. massive damage is physical.&nbsp; The question is whether it will be nothing more than other minor scuffs and scraps (that total the same amount of hit point damage) or if it will be a mortal wound.&nbsp; If the save is made, it's just another minor bump, bruise, or scrape.&nbsp; If the save is failed, it's a mortal wound.If the Reflex save were used in place of the Fort save, then it wouldn't be as likely to be a minor bump, bruise, or scrape as it would be likely to be a near miss.&nbsp; It could still be, but I think I'd describe it as a very near miss instead of minor nick.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hrothgar Rannúlfr, post: 5320426, member: 54436"] [I]continuing to think in print because I find this subject interesting...[/I] Just looked up Trailblazer's Save v. Massive Damage rule... It's a fortitude save, too. So, even with their decidedly non-physical view of positive hit points (based upon the idea that 50% of them can be recovered with nothing more than 10 minutes of rest), it seems that a "hit" that provokes the need to save v. massive damage is physical. The question is whether it will be nothing more than other minor scuffs and scraps (that total the same amount of hit point damage) or if it will be a mortal wound. If the save is made, it's just another minor bump, bruise, or scrape. If the save is failed, it's a mortal wound. If the Reflex save were used in place of the Fort save, then it wouldn't be as likely to be a minor bump, bruise, or scrape as it would be likely to be a near miss. It could still be, but I think I'd describe it as a very near miss instead of minor nick. [/QUOTE]

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