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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 3888615" data-attributes="member: 14159">That was the &quot;apprentice level&quot; rules, you were a 1st level Character with two classes, and were &quot;Apprentice level&quot; in both of them.I always treated it as if you were 1st level with an NPC class (like the typical person) and were taught the principles of a class by somebody with that class (i.e. 1st level in it) then you could eventually pick up the class yourself and the NPC effectively Retrains per PHBII to their new class.Now, how long that training takes probably varies a lot by the class and the level of the teacher, a 1st level Wizard or Monk may take four or five years to teach a novice to 1st level themselves (and would probably learn enough about their own art to make 2nd level in the process), while I figure a 20th level Fighter could have somebody swinging a sword like a pro in a week of dedicated training.Now, as to what level is it considered socially acceptable and expected to take on apprentices?&nbsp; I usually say 5th or 6th level.&nbsp; In old 1e AD&amp;D, a Monk was a &quot;Master&quot; at 6th level, and by 6th level a character can take Leadership, cast 3rd level spells if they are a primary spellcaster, and generally have all their class-defining abilities by that level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 3888615, member: 14159"] That was the "apprentice level" rules, you were a 1st level Character with two classes, and were "Apprentice level" in both of them. I always treated it as if you were 1st level with an NPC class (like the typical person) and were taught the principles of a class by somebody with that class (i.e. 1st level in it) then you could eventually pick up the class yourself and the NPC effectively Retrains per PHBII to their new class. Now, how long that training takes probably varies a lot by the class and the level of the teacher, a 1st level Wizard or Monk may take four or five years to teach a novice to 1st level themselves (and would probably learn enough about their own art to make 2nd level in the process), while I figure a 20th level Fighter could have somebody swinging a sword like a pro in a week of dedicated training. Now, as to what level is it considered socially acceptable and expected to take on apprentices? I usually say 5th or 6th level. In old 1e AD&D, a Monk was a "Master" at 6th level, and by 6th level a character can take Leadership, cast 3rd level spells if they are a primary spellcaster, and generally have all their class-defining abilities by that level. [/QUOTE]

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