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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shadyizok" data-source="post: 5335672" data-attributes="member: 81286">Ah but then you have to look at the poorly written master spellthief more closely. It says: '...your Spellthief and arcane spellcaster levels stack when determining your caster level for all arcane spells'. Which means you add your spellthief level, not CL lvl (7 in the example) to any arcane caster lvl you have. Which I thought would mean my entire spellthief lvl (because of the ACF) and the 3 lvl's of daggerspell mage. Which would make 17 (not sure why I thought it would be 19 before now...).However as you can see it looks confusing this way. I'll probably just talk to my DM and ask him to just make my CL equal to the Spellthief and Daggerspellmage lvls.That was my problem too. I couldn't find a regular handbook which discusses normal playable builds and tips for those, with maybe a side section where it tells you how to utterly abuse it. Hmm perhaps I'll have to digg into my own books a bit harder and maybe create my own handbook.Ok new question, I'm creating a themed build for my spellthief. He's a traveler from a foreign land, based upon real world ancient egypt. Because of campaign issues the only available deities are just the core deities. My character is a devout folower of 'the benevolant sun god' (read: pelor). He's created to not be to epic on his own but be able to handle a lot of different roles in a pinch.The first 7 lvls are going to be spellthief with the trickster acf. He will also have the godsblood spellthief (healing domain) and the spell thematics (sun) as feats. And most probably master spellthief to get rid of arcane spell failure for my stolen spells. Everything else is debatable. I'm thinking human as a race, but I'm open to ideas.Does anyone have any tips on how to advance him? A rogue/caster prestige class would probably suit him the best but arcane trickster and unseen seer are virtualy impossible because of the skill requirements.</blockquote>

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