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<blockquote data-quote="farscapesg1" data-source="post: 2256081" data-attributes="member: 15234"><p>Don't you think that starting at an effective level of 1 is a little low? By the time that you enter the class, a character would have access to Monster Summoning III. Most creatures on that list are around 3 HD, if not higher (like the Celestial Bison which is 5 HD). Not to mention the higher levels. The best the Master Summoner could ever hope to affect would be a 14 HD creature at 10th level of the Prestige Class. I was thinking of basing it off the original Arcane or Divine spellcasting class and then add the Master Summoner class level. For instance, a Wizard 6/Master Summoner 3 would be treated as a 9th level character. </p><p></p><p>Also, remember that Charisma is not a strong point for most Wizards, so this gives a huge boost to the other Classes taking the class (especially Sorcerers). Not only will they usually be able to use the ability more times per day, they will naturally have a better chance of affecting higher HD and larger numbers of creatures. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be based of Charisma, since that is the logical choice, just that it doesn't benefit the Wizard class as much as the others. For a class designed to be focused more towards the Wizard (but open to almost any spellcaster), I find that a little odd.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farscapesg1, post: 2256081, member: 15234"] Don't you think that starting at an effective level of 1 is a little low? By the time that you enter the class, a character would have access to Monster Summoning III. Most creatures on that list are around 3 HD, if not higher (like the Celestial Bison which is 5 HD). Not to mention the higher levels. The best the Master Summoner could ever hope to affect would be a 14 HD creature at 10th level of the Prestige Class. I was thinking of basing it off the original Arcane or Divine spellcasting class and then add the Master Summoner class level. For instance, a Wizard 6/Master Summoner 3 would be treated as a 9th level character. Also, remember that Charisma is not a strong point for most Wizards, so this gives a huge boost to the other Classes taking the class (especially Sorcerers). Not only will they usually be able to use the ability more times per day, they will naturally have a better chance of affecting higher HD and larger numbers of creatures. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be based of Charisma, since that is the logical choice, just that it doesn't benefit the Wizard class as much as the others. For a class designed to be focused more towards the Wizard (but open to almost any spellcaster), I find that a little odd. [/QUOTE]
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