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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SJE" data-source="post: 2800098" data-attributes="member: 13282">No I'm saying that since I've bought (and ran) "Conan, Star Wars, Exalted, Eberron, Starship Troopers, Midnight, Buffy, Angel, Savage Worlds, Aberrant and Cthulhu", Mastering Iron Heroes is now totally superfluos. Like I said in my original post- is this book worthwhile for an experienced GM? No.  But I'm sure its very useful for new GM's who havent played anything except SRD d20. As for this whole love-thing for a mulit-statted villain, I suspect I would only use them once, so what use are the other 19 CR versions to me? Besides I tend to go with partially statted NPC's and improvise as apropriate anyway. D20 suffers from stat bloat enough, that I wouldnt want to encourage the practice of duplicate statting. Is this a worthwhile book for some people? I'm sure it is. Is it for me as a GM with my own rules lite style (If looking up a rule would take more than 15 seconds, then I just improvise it with a reasonable guesstimation. Paying attention to the players and interacting with them is the important thing in running a game, not having your head in book wondering if your zone CR is legal for their level)?  No.But thank you for your help and information, its much appreciated and helped me make an informed decision. SJE</blockquote>