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<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 4245409" data-attributes="member: 4936"><p>Dire, we suggest taking the PrC level as early as possible, to maximize the rewards in the Advanced Learning. A beguiler can easily qualify for Mindbender at level 5, letting you take 1 level in it for your 6th level. Then return to beguiler levels for the remainder of your career. This means your 7th level Advanced Learning can be a 4rth level spell, and your 11th level Advanced Learning can be a 6th level spell...in addition to the benefits already discussed for the 15th level one. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>There aren't really many build requirements for a mindbender/beguiler. The two classes already have very similar roles and foci. Just remember you can't be Good. Neutral, yes, but not good.</p><p></p><p>I have a feeling that won't be a deal breaker for ya. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>You might check Races of Destiny and/or other supplements to see if there's any special feats available to characters with telepathy. I can't recall offhand if there are, but there might be.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p></p><p>As for monks, it's a holdover from 2nd Ed, I believe. Monks are a hybridized class, really. Combat, yes, but not PURE combat. I think the idea is that a monk, a high level monk, is transcendent. As they grow closer to what is essentially a sort of Taoistic perfection, the limits they once had drop away. Obviously they can't acquire all the abilities that are ascribed to such masters, short of a divine template, but things like the etherealness and ability to understand and be understood by all are relatively "cheap" gamewise by that level, and fit the theme of an ascended master on Earth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 4245409, member: 4936"] Dire, we suggest taking the PrC level as early as possible, to maximize the rewards in the Advanced Learning. A beguiler can easily qualify for Mindbender at level 5, letting you take 1 level in it for your 6th level. Then return to beguiler levels for the remainder of your career. This means your 7th level Advanced Learning can be a 4rth level spell, and your 11th level Advanced Learning can be a 6th level spell...in addition to the benefits already discussed for the 15th level one. :) There aren't really many build requirements for a mindbender/beguiler. The two classes already have very similar roles and foci. Just remember you can't be Good. Neutral, yes, but not good. I have a feeling that won't be a deal breaker for ya. ;) You might check Races of Destiny and/or other supplements to see if there's any special feats available to characters with telepathy. I can't recall offhand if there are, but there might be. -- As for monks, it's a holdover from 2nd Ed, I believe. Monks are a hybridized class, really. Combat, yes, but not PURE combat. I think the idea is that a monk, a high level monk, is transcendent. As they grow closer to what is essentially a sort of Taoistic perfection, the limits they once had drop away. Obviously they can't acquire all the abilities that are ascribed to such masters, short of a divine template, but things like the etherealness and ability to understand and be understood by all are relatively "cheap" gamewise by that level, and fit the theme of an ascended master on Earth. [/QUOTE]
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