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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jemal" data-source="post: 4279486" data-attributes="member: 9026">Several things to say - Chain contingency has not been reprinted in 3.5, and as such is not in the listed sources so you'd have to get Albedo's approval for it.I'd have to agree with Vincent on the wording of it, though: so long as the spell triggered is 'affecting' him, he's not breaking any rules, and I'm not seeing any cheese here (So long as he doesn't attempt to archmage shape the spell so it doesn't affect him, as that would break the conditions of contingency, as the spell would NOT be affecting him.  THIS is a commonly attempted cheese which does NOT work).  Also, your iteration that using a spell in a way it wasn't intended is not clever is... strange, to say the least.  I think hucking/levitating/finding something over an opponents head and transforming it into a giant rock is VERY clever, as well as hilariously amusing, and definitely not in the 'everyone tries it' column, as I've never seen ANYBODY try it (other than me..).Also, I'd like to point out that the most common 2nd ed use for the chain contingency spell (Which was, as vince pointed out, worded the same as the 3E version) was "Ali-dhazim's Horrid Wilting X3.  Trigger: Enemy Sighted."At least it's been updated so that it has to Affect you as well, meaning you have to protect yourself against the effects before using it or suffer the same consequences as your opponent.  It also means you can't find a spell that has NO protections against it, b/c any way YOU can protect against it, someone else can as well.  Especially considering that in the nature of this campaign, with people not actually dieing in spell duels, we can figure out how other mages fight, gaining knowledge of their tactics that we can use to protect ourselves against those tactics, forcing them to come up with new ones.Finally, to anybody who says "Wow that's powerful, so why doesn't everybody do it?" well, two reasons : A - YOU are effected by the spells just as much as your opponent, meaning you'd also have to come up with a way of protecting yourself. Anybody with greater arcane sight would know what buffs you have, and if they know you've used contingent spells in this manner in the past, would have the opportunity to dispel those buffs (and/or the contingency itself), or buff themselves similarly.B - It's  NINTH LEVEL SPELL, of COURSE it's supposed to be powerful!!! Time Stop, Shape Change, Mordenkainen's Disjunction, Wish, Gate, Imprisonment... ninth level spells are meant to be examples of "I'm a powerful mage, don't screw with me!".Walking Dad - we've been standing around watching things happen here for a while, several of us have had chances of casting spells while waiting in the crowd.  Halford, for example, wrote his starting post assuming he had a few buffs (Divine Insight, Inspiration, Energy Immunity: Fire), and I used Moment of Presience, assuming I'd cast it in the crowd while they spoke  (Considering the time involved, I didn't think it would be a problem, and the DM has yet to complain about any of these).</blockquote>

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