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<blockquote data-quote="Jemal" data-source="post: 4280525" data-attributes="member: 9026"><p>Just checked the rogues gallery, and apparently no, 'anyone' couldn't do it. He's the ONLY PC with the ability to do what he did.</p><p>None of the rest of us can cast a swift action "you fall down, no save, no attack roll" spell (Well, without killing...)</p><p></p><p>I don't see how it's NOT Impressive. If he'd done it to an NPC or a monster, I think you'd probably agree, but since he did it to a PC (particularily you), this generates bad feelings and blinds you to the thematics of what happened.</p><p></p><p>As to your problem of "why do we have to impress them if they invited us here, they know what we're capable of"... it's because they may not know EVERYTHING we're capable of. They know we're good enough to be here, but they want us to show them WHY, by doing something we think is impressive/cool/whatever. I created a massive pillar with stone dragon statues and shot fireworks from their mouth, then crushed them together b/c <strong><em>I</em></strong> thought it would LOOK impressive. the level of the spell/spells used does not matter. The only reason I used a 9th level spell in my demonstration is b/c Metoer Swarm was the only way I had of creating multiple fireworks.</p><p></p><p>You're focusing ENTIRELY on "all he did was cast an X level spell"... that's not the point. IF that was WAS the point, then all any of us would have to do to 'impress' them would be walk out and go "Look, a 9th level spell, I'm cool". The fact that he's the only PC capable of casting it means it is obviously NOT such a well known and common spell. The fact that he did what he did WITHOUT using a 9th level spell, and that he did it as a SWIFT action (walking by and seeming to exert no effort) is the impressive part. </p><p>If he'd done the exact same thing to someone else with a 9th level spell, would you be more or less impressed?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jemal, post: 4280525, member: 9026"] Just checked the rogues gallery, and apparently no, 'anyone' couldn't do it. He's the ONLY PC with the ability to do what he did. None of the rest of us can cast a swift action "you fall down, no save, no attack roll" spell (Well, without killing...) I don't see how it's NOT Impressive. If he'd done it to an NPC or a monster, I think you'd probably agree, but since he did it to a PC (particularily you), this generates bad feelings and blinds you to the thematics of what happened. As to your problem of "why do we have to impress them if they invited us here, they know what we're capable of"... it's because they may not know EVERYTHING we're capable of. They know we're good enough to be here, but they want us to show them WHY, by doing something we think is impressive/cool/whatever. I created a massive pillar with stone dragon statues and shot fireworks from their mouth, then crushed them together b/c [b][i]I[/i][/b][i][/i] thought it would LOOK impressive. the level of the spell/spells used does not matter. The only reason I used a 9th level spell in my demonstration is b/c Metoer Swarm was the only way I had of creating multiple fireworks. You're focusing ENTIRELY on "all he did was cast an X level spell"... that's not the point. IF that was WAS the point, then all any of us would have to do to 'impress' them would be walk out and go "Look, a 9th level spell, I'm cool". The fact that he's the only PC capable of casting it means it is obviously NOT such a well known and common spell. The fact that he did what he did WITHOUT using a 9th level spell, and that he did it as a SWIFT action (walking by and seeming to exert no effort) is the impressive part. If he'd done the exact same thing to someone else with a 9th level spell, would you be more or less impressed? [/QUOTE]
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