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<blockquote data-quote="Halford" data-source="post: 4280900" data-attributes="member: 64844"><p>Incidently Jemal you said you had a question for me in the IC thread. Was that the one, about Fireballs and Contingency's? - which I hope has since been resolved to everyone's saisfaction in a kind DM rule works great, but in my games I'll go with my interpretaion kinda way.</p><p></p><p>As to the clever uses, I see these "clever" tricks all the time, all the time. And I have used them myself, for example I had a Druid who once used greater Stoneshpe to seperate a vast block of stone in a cavern ceiling atop of several dozen giants, I did it once it was very efective I never did it again. I suppose my thinking goes something like this....</p><p></p><p>Shrink Item is a third level spell, its power should be comparable to other 3rd level spells, if there is a way to exploit shrink item which makes it better than comparable spells of significantly higher level then shrink item ought not be allowed to be used in that way.</p><p></p><p>It also matters how someone comes to a "clever" usage of a spell - for me at least. If they read a spell and figure out said clever usage, for example, that is preferable to I did this once and it worked great so I'll do it agin, or the even worse I read about someone who did this so I will repeat it.</p><p></p><p>I don't know I guess I like power gameing, but somethings seem too easy. Polymorph is so wonderfully exploitable I cannot bring myself to use it, sure its kinda cool the first time the Wizard changes the Fighter into a Hydra, but when it becomes a default combat measure, not so much. As for Shapechange, 'e gads! Even with Monster Manual only available there are forms that for our purposes are almost instant win, I won't say what forms, but they have not cropped up yet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Halford, post: 4280900, member: 64844"] Incidently Jemal you said you had a question for me in the IC thread. Was that the one, about Fireballs and Contingency's? - which I hope has since been resolved to everyone's saisfaction in a kind DM rule works great, but in my games I'll go with my interpretaion kinda way. As to the clever uses, I see these "clever" tricks all the time, all the time. And I have used them myself, for example I had a Druid who once used greater Stoneshpe to seperate a vast block of stone in a cavern ceiling atop of several dozen giants, I did it once it was very efective I never did it again. I suppose my thinking goes something like this.... Shrink Item is a third level spell, its power should be comparable to other 3rd level spells, if there is a way to exploit shrink item which makes it better than comparable spells of significantly higher level then shrink item ought not be allowed to be used in that way. It also matters how someone comes to a "clever" usage of a spell - for me at least. If they read a spell and figure out said clever usage, for example, that is preferable to I did this once and it worked great so I'll do it agin, or the even worse I read about someone who did this so I will repeat it. I don't know I guess I like power gameing, but somethings seem too easy. Polymorph is so wonderfully exploitable I cannot bring myself to use it, sure its kinda cool the first time the Wizard changes the Fighter into a Hydra, but when it becomes a default combat measure, not so much. As for Shapechange, 'e gads! Even with Monster Manual only available there are forms that for our purposes are almost instant win, I won't say what forms, but they have not cropped up yet. [/QUOTE]
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