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<blockquote data-quote="Tarin Greenflame" data-source="post: 117019" data-attributes="member: 2468"><p>Weeeelll back to MotW...</p><p></p><p>Is it just me, or does the tempest lack in uniqueness/power for how high the requirements are? All you really gain from the class ultimately (that cannot be obtained by other means) is 1 more offhand attack at -15 penalty to hit (thus hardly raising your damage output), and the ability to gain a block bonus at the cost of no offhand attacks that barely outclasses the kind of AC bonus you could gain from a magical shield at the high levels you are recieving the block bonuses, not to mention the other enhancements allowed by a magical shield. Oh, and a reduction in TWF penalty by 2, which some DMs allow as a normal feat anyway, and is not that huge a difference otherwise, at higher levels (the exact levels where upon you recieve the ability). The tempest is really not that much better than just taking levels in fighter, yet it's requirements are rather high.</p><p></p><p>Sure, you can specialize in TWF, but...taking fighter levels or other PrCs are similar to or greater in benefit <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> They could have thrown in a few more *unique* abilities for the class, such as maybe making offhand attacks allow full str bonus, or something, SOMETHING more that is beneficial and unique. Maybe my expectations are too high for the class, but if so, lemme know how my logic is skewed on that matter. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p>Oh, and a few more PrCs geared towards casting would have been nice, but the verdant lord does nicely...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>ASIDE from that, the book was good. Nice feats, PrCs, equipment, and spells, as well as the stuff for animal companions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tarin Greenflame, post: 117019, member: 2468"] Weeeelll back to MotW... Is it just me, or does the tempest lack in uniqueness/power for how high the requirements are? All you really gain from the class ultimately (that cannot be obtained by other means) is 1 more offhand attack at -15 penalty to hit (thus hardly raising your damage output), and the ability to gain a block bonus at the cost of no offhand attacks that barely outclasses the kind of AC bonus you could gain from a magical shield at the high levels you are recieving the block bonuses, not to mention the other enhancements allowed by a magical shield. Oh, and a reduction in TWF penalty by 2, which some DMs allow as a normal feat anyway, and is not that huge a difference otherwise, at higher levels (the exact levels where upon you recieve the ability). The tempest is really not that much better than just taking levels in fighter, yet it's requirements are rather high. Sure, you can specialize in TWF, but...taking fighter levels or other PrCs are similar to or greater in benefit :confused: They could have thrown in a few more *unique* abilities for the class, such as maybe making offhand attacks allow full str bonus, or something, SOMETHING more that is beneficial and unique. Maybe my expectations are too high for the class, but if so, lemme know how my logic is skewed on that matter. :confused: Oh, and a few more PrCs geared towards casting would have been nice, but the verdant lord does nicely...:D ASIDE from that, the book was good. Nice feats, PrCs, equipment, and spells, as well as the stuff for animal companions. [/QUOTE]
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