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<blockquote data-quote="BBQ Man" data-source="post: 117829" data-attributes="member: 3812">positing a changeHow about changing the check itself?My players and I have been thinking on the intimidate issue for some time, and we think we have a possible answer, still subject to some working though.Intimidate becomes an opposed roll check, the modifier is always the CHA bonus and skill modifier, then the person who is trying to intimidate the other may include the bonus from some other ability if they are basing the current use of the intimidate skill with that.&nbsp;&nbsp; The 'recipient' then can use their own skill modifier plus their CHA modifier, and then their bonus for whatever ability the intimidator used for their roll.example:Joe the Barb (11 CHA, 16 STR, intimidate 2) attempts to intimidate an ogre through a 'bending of bars' routine, he adds is CHA modifier and his STR modifier to his roll.&nbsp; Grum the Ogre (CHA 6 STR 20) makes an opposed check, adding his CHA bonus and his STR bonus to the roll (because joe tried intimidating through STR).make sense?It works for any skill that is being used of course, reflecting the difficulty that is inherent in trying to intimidate someone who may be better than you in a given area.BBQ Man</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BBQ Man, post: 117829, member: 3812"] [b]positing a change[/b] How about changing the check itself? My players and I have been thinking on the intimidate issue for some time, and we think we have a possible answer, still subject to some working though. Intimidate becomes an opposed roll check, the modifier is always the CHA bonus and skill modifier, then the person who is trying to intimidate the other may include the bonus from some other ability if they are basing the current use of the intimidate skill with that. The 'recipient' then can use their own skill modifier plus their CHA modifier, and then their bonus for whatever ability the intimidator used for their roll. example: Joe the Barb (11 CHA, 16 STR, intimidate 2) attempts to intimidate an ogre through a 'bending of bars' routine, he adds is CHA modifier and his STR modifier to his roll. Grum the Ogre (CHA 6 STR 20) makes an opposed check, adding his CHA bonus and his STR bonus to the roll (because joe tried intimidating through STR). make sense? It works for any skill that is being used of course, reflecting the difficulty that is inherent in trying to intimidate someone who may be better than you in a given area. BBQ Man [/QUOTE]

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